> CAN be reasoned with Sort of. What you really end up doing is making enemies and burning bridges to defend a software estimate that ends up being completely

> CAN be reasoned with Sort of. What you really end up doing is making enemies and burning bridges to defend a software estimate that ends up being completely unrealistic anyway. Sure you can "win" an argument with a "stakeholder" if you fight hard enough, but you'll pay for it later. They want to hear what they want to hear.