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Poor guy. Meanwhile a bunch of others get protected when they touch kids. Things like these make me want to drop out of anything software related and live a li

Poor guy. Meanwhile a bunch of others get protected when they touch kids. Things like these make me want to drop out of anything software related and live a life of physical stuff only. Move to a village and be the local mechanic or baker without a website and just an analog phone line, at most

thatguy0900 5y ago
Hmm. Your use of poor guy makes me wonder if I should feel bad for him. I don't, because my gut reaction is that he lives off of the donations for a religion he doesn't appear to believe in himself, and presumably most of the people who pays his salary would want him gone. What are the spiritual implications of following and confessing to a nonobservant priest to catholics? Though I suppose after all the high ranking pedo stuff came out anyone who is still a catholic is kind of asking for it.
- gdulli 5y ago
  A linked article says that he "held a critical oversight role in the Catholic Church’s response to the recent spate of sexual abuse and misconduct scandals."
  - thatguy0900 5y ago
    Well, at least he himself was just using grindr with consenting adults. Hopefully, at least.
    - headShrinker 5y ago
      And hopefully you don’t have sex with children. Though we don’t have any evidence to indicate that you don’t… so you are suspect. Hopefully you only engage in sex acts with consenting adults
      - thatguy0900 5y ago
        Well you won't find that my direct peers and companions have a recent history of shuffling pedophiles around when they're caught so I suspect the situation is a little different.
        headShrinker 5y ago
        We won’t know the depth of your guilt (or innocence) until a full investigation is concluded. Your “peers” are also suspected child predators.
        thatguy0900 5y ago
        I'm really curious about this. I understand you disagree, but I really can't see how.It really was the case that the catholic church at all levels was aiding and abetting pedophilia. How can you still see the clergy as good? What, in your eyes, would they have to do to stop being good? Is there anything?
        headShrinker 5y ago
        You go back & forth defending then attacking the church then the priest. I really don't understand your issue. I'm clear, I have issue with the churches 1: priest obstinance policy and 2: gay policy; it's unrealistic with a catastrophically negative outcome. I have a problem with people attacking gays or straights for wanting love. I don't care what your religion or organization is. Saying 'If he had sex, he's immoral and should resign as priest and the religious order' is consciously or unconsciously issuing a homophobic attack because it was Grindr for gay sex with a man. If it was a man that had sex with an adult woman, no one would care, The Pillar wouldn't have publicized the data findings, this wouldn't be an article on arstechnica, and you wouldn't care either. Also Priesthood isn't a job you leave. It isn't a job, it's for life. I grew up in the church. I have friends in the church. I know a lot of priests and I knew a lot of gay priests. There are a lot of good people there. If none of that was good enough to change your tack, you will N E V E R defeat the church, and people need/want it. The're the single biggest land real-estate owners in the world with 1.3 billion baptised Catholics worldwide as of 2019. Money is power and this scandal will blow over, they are on a long-term plan. You can help the church evolve to a kinder organization; kinder to its priests and its parishioners. Personally, I don't like church, it's not for me. Deep down everyone knows right and wrong, and existence a god doesn't help answer any questions I have. The idea of heaven allows people to think there is something better after. There isn't.
    - dragonwriter 5y ago
      > Well, at least he himself was just using grindr with consenting adults. Its worth noting that central to the attack on him was that despite their being no indication of any kind that his use of grindr was anything but with consenting adults, it nevertheless (because apps like Grindr are sometimes uses by predators) raised the issue that he might be soft on predators.
- 0des 5y ago
  >anyone who is still a catholic is kind of asking for it Would you mind expanding on this?
  - thatguy0900 5y ago
    Anyone who is still a Catholic after long running high level pedophile coverups and relocations should expect the clergy to be a little less than holy, probably.
    - adamrezich 5y ago
      Catholicism: the one religion you're allowed to openly call bullshit without being considered a bigot, apparently
      - jwalgenbach 5y ago
        No. They're all bullshit.
        adamrezich 5y ago
        glad you have it all figured out—may I ask how you achieved this enlightenment? did the sense of superiority over others come with it or was that the result of something else?
    - Dma54rhs 5y ago
      Dang, can we get this gate speech removed?
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      - thatguy0900 5y ago
        What, out of curiosity, would the catholic church have to do before talking about what the clergy has done stops being "hate speech" to you? Edit: Im guessing you actually meant hate speech, so I'm changing "gate speech" to that. I thought you were referring to some kind of gatekeeping
- headShrinker 5y ago
  “ makes me wonder if I should feel bad for him. I don't, because my gut reaction is that he…” You don’t know him and you can’t claim to know what he thinks or believes. No one follows the catholic theology to absolutely strict adherence. Just some are more strict about some aspects. You accusing him of having no faith or belief in the religion he has dedicated his life to is offensive. Your quick judgement is probably because he’s gay… and religious, thus a hypocrite, in some peoples eyes. Just remember it’s the Church that turned away from gays not the other way around. Having to abstain from physical contact with another adult human is a deeply unnatural and inhuman protocol. I don’t judge any one for wanting to touched and loved. As for your quick and abrasive judgement: A group of men preparing to stone an adulterous woman to death were addressed by Jesus with the words: ‘He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her’ (John 8:7).
  - thatguy0900 5y ago
    This is just absurdity. They can't have relations, and relations with men is an even further crime. I don't care that he's gay at all, I'm neither catholic or a Christian. But to say he can believe in what he's preaching while he's in the upper echelons of the church while using grindr at the same time is just lunacy. I mean he doesn't even just have a secret boyfriend or something, he's using a hook up app. Jesus also destroyed a temple when he found it full of merchants,I wonder how he would react to the catholics.
    - lupire 5y ago
      I recommend you watch Six Feet Under
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ttt0 5y ago
There are plenty of examples of grindr users touching kids. https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/02/11/boy-grindr-sexual-abuse-tinder/ https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/02/11/boy-grindr-sexual-abus... https://nypost.com/2018/06/15/teacher-busted-in-car-with-teen-he-met-on-grindr-police/ https://nypost.com/2018/06/15/teacher-busted-in-car-with-tee... https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/02/13/grindr-rape-teenage-boy/ https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/02/13/grindr-rape-teenage-bo...

thatguy0900 5y ago

Hmm. Your use of poor guy makes me wonder if I should feel bad for him. I don't, because my gut reaction is that he lives off of the donations for a religion he doesn't appear to believe in himself, and presumably most of the people who pays his salary would want him gone. What are the spiritual implications of following and confessing to a nonobservant priest to catholics? Though I suppose after all the high ranking pedo stuff came out anyone who is still a catholic is kind of asking for it.

gdulli 5y ago
A linked article says that he "held a critical oversight role in the Catholic Church’s response to the recent spate of sexual abuse and misconduct scandals."
- thatguy0900 5y ago
  Well, at least he himself was just using grindr with consenting adults. Hopefully, at least.
  - headShrinker 5y ago
    And hopefully you don’t have sex with children. Though we don’t have any evidence to indicate that you don’t… so you are suspect. Hopefully you only engage in sex acts with consenting adults
    - thatguy0900 5y ago
      Well you won't find that my direct peers and companions have a recent history of shuffling pedophiles around when they're caught so I suspect the situation is a little different.
      - headShrinker 5y ago
        We won’t know the depth of your guilt (or innocence) until a full investigation is concluded. Your “peers” are also suspected child predators.
        thatguy0900 5y ago
        I'm really curious about this. I understand you disagree, but I really can't see how.It really was the case that the catholic church at all levels was aiding and abetting pedophilia. How can you still see the clergy as good? What, in your eyes, would they have to do to stop being good? Is there anything?
        headShrinker 5y ago
        You go back & forth defending then attacking the church then the priest. I really don't understand your issue. I'm clear, I have issue with the churches 1: priest obstinance policy and 2: gay policy; it's unrealistic with a catastrophically negative outcome. I have a problem with people attacking gays or straights for wanting love. I don't care what your religion or organization is. Saying 'If he had sex, he's immoral and should resign as priest and the religious order' is consciously or unconsciously issuing a homophobic attack because it was Grindr for gay sex with a man. If it was a man that had sex with an adult woman, no one would care, The Pillar wouldn't have publicized the data findings, this wouldn't be an article on arstechnica, and you wouldn't care either. Also Priesthood isn't a job you leave. It isn't a job, it's for life. I grew up in the church. I have friends in the church. I know a lot of priests and I knew a lot of gay priests. There are a lot of good people there. If none of that was good enough to change your tack, you will N E V E R defeat the church, and people need/want it. The're the single biggest land real-estate owners in the world with 1.3 billion baptised Catholics worldwide as of 2019. Money is power and this scandal will blow over, they are on a long-term plan. You can help the church evolve to a kinder organization; kinder to its priests and its parishioners. Personally, I don't like church, it's not for me. Deep down everyone knows right and wrong, and existence a god doesn't help answer any questions I have. The idea of heaven allows people to think there is something better after. There isn't.
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    > Well, at least he himself was just using grindr with consenting adults. Its worth noting that central to the attack on him was that despite their being no indication of any kind that his use of grindr was anything but with consenting adults, it nevertheless (because apps like Grindr are sometimes uses by predators) raised the issue that he might be soft on predators.
0des 5y ago
>anyone who is still a catholic is kind of asking for it Would you mind expanding on this?
- thatguy0900 5y ago
  Anyone who is still a Catholic after long running high level pedophile coverups and relocations should expect the clergy to be a little less than holy, probably.
  - adamrezich 5y ago
    Catholicism: the one religion you're allowed to openly call bullshit without being considered a bigot, apparently
    - jwalgenbach 5y ago
      No. They're all bullshit.
      - adamrezich 5y ago
        glad you have it all figured out—may I ask how you achieved this enlightenment? did the sense of superiority over others come with it or was that the result of something else?
  - Dma54rhs 5y ago
    Dang, can we get this gate speech removed?
    - deleted 5y ago
      [deleted]
    - thatguy0900 5y ago
      What, out of curiosity, would the catholic church have to do before talking about what the clergy has done stops being "hate speech" to you? Edit: Im guessing you actually meant hate speech, so I'm changing "gate speech" to that. I thought you were referring to some kind of gatekeeping
headShrinker 5y ago
“ makes me wonder if I should feel bad for him. I don't, because my gut reaction is that he…” You don’t know him and you can’t claim to know what he thinks or believes. No one follows the catholic theology to absolutely strict adherence. Just some are more strict about some aspects. You accusing him of having no faith or belief in the religion he has dedicated his life to is offensive. Your quick judgement is probably because he’s gay… and religious, thus a hypocrite, in some peoples eyes. Just remember it’s the Church that turned away from gays not the other way around. Having to abstain from physical contact with another adult human is a deeply unnatural and inhuman protocol. I don’t judge any one for wanting to touched and loved. As for your quick and abrasive judgement: A group of men preparing to stone an adulterous woman to death were addressed by Jesus with the words: ‘He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her’ (John 8:7).
- thatguy0900 5y ago
  This is just absurdity. They can't have relations, and relations with men is an even further crime. I don't care that he's gay at all, I'm neither catholic or a Christian. But to say he can believe in what he's preaching while he's in the upper echelons of the church while using grindr at the same time is just lunacy. I mean he doesn't even just have a secret boyfriend or something, he's using a hook up app. Jesus also destroyed a temple when he found it full of merchants,I wonder how he would react to the catholics.
  - lupire 5y ago
    I recommend you watch Six Feet Under

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ttt0 5y ago

There are plenty of examples of grindr users touching kids. https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/02/11/boy-grindr-sexual-abuse-tinder/ https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/02/11/boy-grindr-sexual-abus... https://nypost.com/2018/06/15/teacher-busted-in-car-with-teen-he-met-on-grindr-police/ https://nypost.com/2018/06/15/teacher-busted-in-car-with-tee... https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/02/13/grindr-rape-teenage-boy/ https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/02/13/grindr-rape-teenage-bo...