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NSO Group is dead at this point. They fucked with the wrong people. Hacking human rights advocates is fine but when Presidents and PMs start getting their phone
by igorzx31 5y ago
NSO Group is dead at this point. They fucked with the wrong people. Hacking human rights advocates is fine but when Presidents and PMs start getting their phones hacked I am sure they will implement legislation to outlaw this type of software.
- fighterpilot 5y agoWhat evidence is there that a PM has been hacked? Their number was on the list but haven't seen anything about Pegasus having been found on their devices.
- IncludeSecurity 5y agoI'd guess that those same presidents will call them up and buy. They'd rather be a customer than try and change a behemoth with political power like these guys.
- arkitaip 5y agoAttacking NSO would be like attacking the Israeli government and you don't do that because your PM's shitty OpSec was exposed.
- igorzx31 5y agoRemember the Israelis also need allies.
- Gibbon1 5y agoThe Israeli's have two allies of note, the US and Saudi Arabia. Everyone else dislikes to hates them. The geopolitical clout of the US and Saudi Arabia are in decline.
- igorzx31 5y agoEurope like them, kind of, many other gulf states, China, many african countries, I can go on and on
- threatofrain 5y agoAllies are allies because of strategic positioning, and many of Israel's proximal allies are authoritarian nations who have interest in this kind of technology. Israel's strategic value hardly shifted at all from this slate of embarrassing news.
- fabianhjr 5y agoThe only overtly pro-nomatterwhat-Israel government is the United States so at most 1 of the 193 countries in the United Nations would avoid regulating NSO on international relations grounds.
- igorzx31 5y agoThat is not true at all. The US is just as critical of Israel as many other countries.
- sudosysgen 5y agoThis is actually one of the best reasons to hack another government.
- tomjen3 5y agoUnlikely. If anything this is good PR: look we have this great tool that can hack anything and we will totally sell it to shit countries run by tin pot dictators. The only way this backfires is if somebody sends men with guns after them.
- nindalf 5y agoIt’s an Israeli weapon, subject to arms control legislation. But that legislation can only be authored by Israel itself. So it doesn’t matter what other countries outlaw, Israel will continue to authorise NSO to sell the software to state actors around the world. Israel could always do with an extra friend or two and providing this software gains them a friend while costing them nothing.
- sudosysgen 5y agoIt really doesn't cost them nothing - it makes them the target to offensive operations of other states. I'd be very, very surprised if NSO itself isn't hacked.
- praptak 5y agoIsrael is not immune from international pressure though.
- tyrrvk 5y agoUm, they kind of are? Or at least think they are? Any sort of international pressure is met with cries of 'anti-semitism' which quickly shuts down anyone. It is used to combat the BDS movement, which itself is intended to put pressure on Israel over the occupation of Palestine. A non-violent option similar to what happened with South Africa.
- 4r4r4r 5y agoNSO Group is immune from prosecution, as are all Israeli people and companies, because they are eternal victims of the holocaust, which officially ended 27,833 day ago but will continue to remain an excuse for all their wrong doing eternally. https://www.jtsa.edu/does-the-holocaust-play-an-outsized-role-in-contemporary-jewish-identity https://www.jtsa.edu/does-the-holocaust-play-an-outsized-rol...