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I use BBEdit and love the editor (esp. love the new LSP support), but have hated the name and the icon for a long time. I have all these beautiful macOS icons,

I use BBEdit and love the editor (esp. love the new LSP support), but have hated the name and the icon for a long time. I have all these beautiful macOS icons, and then there's BBedit with it's weird acronym name and encyclopedia looking icon. Maybe it's time for a rebranding for the next generation! But seriously, BBEdit IMO beats out VSCode for speed and stability by a mile if you're a macOS user. And you're supporting a much smaller company than Microsoft.

jtbayly 5y ago
The icon is definitely updated in 14.
- spiderice 5y ago
  It is, but it is still really ugly and feels very out of place on a Mac. edit: typo
  - tablespoon 5y ago
    > It is, but it is stilly really ugly and feels very out of place on a Mac. How? I just download it, an the icon looks totally fine to me. Also, BBEdit is really old. Having it change its name to suit modern fashions is about as desirable as having Emacs do the same.
    - spiderice 5y ago
      I agree, I'm not suggesting a name change at all. That would be bad. And obviously the idea of the icon being ugly is completely objective, but I just don't like it. Bad colors. Bad shapes. Idk. It looks old, probably because it is. But plenty of old companies have modernized their logos in a pleasant way.
      - tablespoon 5y ago
        > I agree, I'm not suggesting a name change at all. I was kinda responding to an ancestor comment with that statement. > Bad colors. Bad shapes. Idk. It looks old, probably because it is. But plenty of old companies have modernized their logos in a pleasant way. Modernization is often a regression. Looking at the icons in my apps folder, there are way too many seemingly standard-size circles differentiated by a little color or a less-prominent icon, and most of the rest are a standard-size squares with similar characteristics. It's like if the alphabet was all O's, but with different colors and small diacritics. IMHO, "modern" UIs tend far too much towards indistinguishably in order to achieve a "unified" look, which looks good in a quick demo but is detrimental to daily use. However, the ultimate mistake is Apple's, for creating a text-free dock that makes the icons do too much work. And of course, Apple's mistakes must be copied by everyone else, because they're so good at marketing (I'm looking at you, Microsoft).
bonaldi 5y ago
you can make it look like TextWrangler too if that helps
plodman 5y ago
https://macosicons.com/ https://macosicons.com/ Unfortunately it doesn’t stick if there’s an update but it solves the problem temporarily.
- wlesieutre 5y ago
  Replacicon is $3 well spent if you want custom icons to stick between updates https://replacicon.app/ https://replacicon.app/
eludwig 5y ago
>>But seriously, BBEdit IMO beats out VSCode for speed and stability by a mile if you're a macOS user I've been using BBEdit since the first release and I would never trade it for VSCode. They are totally different beasts to me. VSCode has been ridiculously stable for me and, as far as I can recall, has never crashed or lost a single line of source code. VSCode's speed has never been an issue, as it is ALWAYS open all the time, lol. I restart to update it and that is that. On the other hand, BBEdit is always open as well, performing totally different tasks. These days, I use it mainly as a persistent note taker and text munger. I will definitely be looking to test the new "Notes Window" functionality! Both great tools, open 24x7 on my dev mac.
tumultco 5y ago
I made a revised icon that imho fits in better with the Big Sur's look and works at Dock sizes: https://twitter.com/jmfd/status/1417595485653635073 https://twitter.com/jmfd/status/1417595485653635073

jtbayly 5y ago

The icon is definitely updated in 14.

spiderice 5y ago
It is, but it is still really ugly and feels very out of place on a Mac. edit: typo
- tablespoon 5y ago
  > It is, but it is stilly really ugly and feels very out of place on a Mac. How? I just download it, an the icon looks totally fine to me. Also, BBEdit is really old. Having it change its name to suit modern fashions is about as desirable as having Emacs do the same.
  - spiderice 5y ago
    I agree, I'm not suggesting a name change at all. That would be bad. And obviously the idea of the icon being ugly is completely objective, but I just don't like it. Bad colors. Bad shapes. Idk. It looks old, probably because it is. But plenty of old companies have modernized their logos in a pleasant way.
    - tablespoon 5y ago
      > I agree, I'm not suggesting a name change at all. I was kinda responding to an ancestor comment with that statement. > Bad colors. Bad shapes. Idk. It looks old, probably because it is. But plenty of old companies have modernized their logos in a pleasant way. Modernization is often a regression. Looking at the icons in my apps folder, there are way too many seemingly standard-size circles differentiated by a little color or a less-prominent icon, and most of the rest are a standard-size squares with similar characteristics. It's like if the alphabet was all O's, but with different colors and small diacritics. IMHO, "modern" UIs tend far too much towards indistinguishably in order to achieve a "unified" look, which looks good in a quick demo but is detrimental to daily use. However, the ultimate mistake is Apple's, for creating a text-free dock that makes the icons do too much work. And of course, Apple's mistakes must be copied by everyone else, because they're so good at marketing (I'm looking at you, Microsoft).

bonaldi 5y ago

you can make it look like TextWrangler too if that helps

plodman 5y ago

https://macosicons.com/ https://macosicons.com/ Unfortunately it doesn’t stick if there’s an update but it solves the problem temporarily.

wlesieutre 5y ago
Replacicon is $3 well spent if you want custom icons to stick between updates https://replacicon.app/ https://replacicon.app/

eludwig 5y ago

>>But seriously, BBEdit IMO beats out VSCode for speed and stability by a mile if you're a macOS user I've been using BBEdit since the first release and I would never trade it for VSCode. They are totally different beasts to me. VSCode has been ridiculously stable for me and, as far as I can recall, has never crashed or lost a single line of source code. VSCode's speed has never been an issue, as it is ALWAYS open all the time, lol. I restart to update it and that is that. On the other hand, BBEdit is always open as well, performing totally different tasks. These days, I use it mainly as a persistent note taker and text munger. I will definitely be looking to test the new "Notes Window" functionality! Both great tools, open 24x7 on my dev mac.

tumultco 5y ago

I made a revised icon that imho fits in better with the Big Sur's look and works at Dock sizes: https://twitter.com/jmfd/status/1417595485653635073 https://twitter.com/jmfd/status/1417595485653635073