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Except in the US Type 2 is not really a thing (there is a local standard based on it intended for semis and buses), and everybody is using type 1. Even the vers
by jsmith45 5y ago
Except in the US Type 2 is not really a thing (there is a local standard based on it intended for semis and buses), and everybody is using type 1. Even the version of CCS used as the de-facto DC standard in the US is based on a type 1 plug instead of a type 2.
In Europe, tesla uses the Type 2 CCS plug on Type 3. Older models ones used a seldom used part of the Type 2 specification that permitted DC charging without the extra pins from CCS.
- epistasis 5y agoOops, you are correct, I meant level 2 not type 2! It's still the J1772 connector in Europe, unless I'm mistaken. I have zero first hand EV experience on that continent.
- jsmith45 5y agoEurope uses the Type 2 "mennekes" Connector, which has been standardized as the SAE J3068 for use in big trucks/busses (think the kind of vehicle where only diesel is even an option for the ICE versions). The main advantage of the Type 2 is that for AC charging it allows for three phase power at up to 480v (50 kw max). (vs 250v single phase maximum for Type 1). Other than connector shape/size, type 1 is a strict subset of the Type 2 standard, to the point where a simple passive adapter can convert a type 1 charger to a type 2 vehicle just fine. A single phase type 2 charger of the right voltage range could potentially work with a type 1 vehicle with a simple passive adapter, but this direction is more risky, since it appears that voltage and phase counts are not a negotiated parameter, and that the control signals are not limited to 5v like in the Type 1 connector.