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Because not everyone can charge at home and in cities people will rely on curbside charging, for which Tesla has no answer. The question will be: how big is th

Because not everyone can charge at home and in cities people will rely on curbside charging, for which Tesla has no answer. The question will be: how big is the market of people who can afford a Tesla, but live in an apartment building with no possibilty to install a charger in the garage. I don't think it's a live threatening issue for Tesla, but at some point they will need to solve it. I guess adapters will do.

hn_throwaway_99 5y ago
> Because not everyone can charge at home and in cities people will rely on curbside charging, for which Tesla has no answer. Sorry, totally disagree that EVs (electric only, not hybrids) will be viable for more than a teeny percentage of apartment dwellers if their building doesn't support charging. Curbside charging just won't cut it for most people, for the simple fact that the most common time when people want to charge their cars at night, when the car is in their garage.
- taken_username 5y ago
  Assumption: everyone has a garage!
  - hn_throwaway_99 5y ago
    I was thinking of an apartment building garage in that statement, but all of my reasoning goes the same for an apartment building parking lot.
    - freemint 5y ago
      Mandatory parking area is not that excessive as it is inside the USoA all over the world. Those mandatory parking area laws are on the mayor contributors to urban sprawl (where every family needs a 2 car garage and therefore has one).
- ericd 5y ago
  Why? I have friends who can’t charge at home, and just charge at superchargers. Not ideal, but they seem fine with it. It’s not like the cars take that long to charge, and their range is such that you only need to do that maybe once a week with a normal commute.
- turbinerneiter 5y ago
  If the range of the car is 500km, in Europe most people would probably charge once or twice a week. But I agree, we need chargers in buildings parking garage to make this work.
epistasis 5y ago
Overnight charging will likely be a type 2 connector, and that's a small adapter that fits in a pocket, and is easy to keep in the center console when needed. Edit: this adapter already ships with every Tesla in the charger bag. A lot of places also put both type2 and tesla chargers right next to each other. The expense with chargers is mostly running the wires to the parking spots, the end points are cheap in comparison.
snek_case 5y ago
There are already adapters for J1772 to Tesla, and the Teslas sold in Europe already have CCS ports because the EU mandated this. IMO it's not as big of a problem as people imagine. What likely will end up happening, long term, is that Tesla will switch to CCS plugs in the US as well, and retrofit their older cars.

hn_throwaway_99 5y ago

> Because not everyone can charge at home and in cities people will rely on curbside charging, for which Tesla has no answer. Sorry, totally disagree that EVs (electric only, not hybrids) will be viable for more than a teeny percentage of apartment dwellers if their building doesn't support charging. Curbside charging just won't cut it for most people, for the simple fact that the most common time when people want to charge their cars at night, when the car is in their garage.

taken_username 5y ago
Assumption: everyone has a garage!
- hn_throwaway_99 5y ago
  I was thinking of an apartment building garage in that statement, but all of my reasoning goes the same for an apartment building parking lot.
  - freemint 5y ago
    Mandatory parking area is not that excessive as it is inside the USoA all over the world. Those mandatory parking area laws are on the mayor contributors to urban sprawl (where every family needs a 2 car garage and therefore has one).
ericd 5y ago
Why? I have friends who can’t charge at home, and just charge at superchargers. Not ideal, but they seem fine with it. It’s not like the cars take that long to charge, and their range is such that you only need to do that maybe once a week with a normal commute.
turbinerneiter 5y ago
If the range of the car is 500km, in Europe most people would probably charge once or twice a week. But I agree, we need chargers in buildings parking garage to make this work.

epistasis 5y ago

Overnight charging will likely be a type 2 connector, and that's a small adapter that fits in a pocket, and is easy to keep in the center console when needed. Edit: this adapter already ships with every Tesla in the charger bag. A lot of places also put both type2 and tesla chargers right next to each other. The expense with chargers is mostly running the wires to the parking spots, the end points are cheap in comparison.

snek_case 5y ago

There are already adapters for J1772 to Tesla, and the Teslas sold in Europe already have CCS ports because the EU mandated this. IMO it's not as big of a problem as people imagine. What likely will end up happening, long term, is that Tesla will switch to CCS plugs in the US as well, and retrofit their older cars.