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How a thing like "swatting" exist at all? AFAIK it can happen multiple times to the same location and directed against same people too [0]. It happens for base

by trymas 5y ago

How a thing like "swatting" exist at all? AFAIK it can happen multiple times to the same location and directed against same people too [0]. It happens for baseless unconfirmed allegations against someone.. "Oh I have heard that he/she is a drug dealer and they are walking with a gun in their backyard" - and whole swat unit is sent - no questions asked. What the hell? This happens to the super rich and famous too [1]. SWAT team comes to the neighbourhood full of 20MM+ houses and is not second guessing what's going on? [0] a bit too lazy to search, though there were infamous swattings of famous youtubers. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting#Other_notable_cases https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting#Other_notable_cases

tim333 5y ago
The whole Special Weapons and Tactics things seems a bit over the top, especially coming from the UK where maybe some cop will maybe knock on the door and ask if everything is ok.
- consumer451 5y ago
  I imagine that police responding to a home in a country which is armed to the teeth is quite different.
vorticalbox 5y ago
to play devils advocaat. Is it not better for the police to wrongfully turn up to a potentially dangerous situation then to not and people get hurt or killed?
- trymas 5y ago
  Problem is how violent US policing is [0]. Police/SWAT do not turn up to assess the situation. It looks like they turn up to release their anger, aggression and "play" with their assault weapons. Swatters do this, because it will cause big material and mental losses to the victim, with a high chance of death [1]. In this case police/swat is a "poor man's assassin". It's very funny for me to read "Measures against swatting" from that wiki article ([1]), when it happens only in US (and maybe Brazil). This does not happen in other 1st world country, because police is accountable for their ammunition and especially citizens shot. In US you can instigate fake raids and kill innocent people in their sleep, and nothing will happen to you as long as you say that you feared for your life. [2] [0] I know I am stereotyping, though from western 1st world countries US is undoubtedly the leader in police violence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforc... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting#Injuries_or_deaths_due_to_swatting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting#Injuries_or_deaths_du... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Breonna_Taylor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Breonna_Taylor
- throwaway0a5e 5y ago
  >Is it not better for the police to wrongfully turn up to a potentially dangerous situation then to not and people get hurt or killed? Not so long as they tend to leave a trail of citations for petty BS infractions nobody cares about and everyone resents wherever they go.

by trymas 5y ago

tim333 5y ago

The whole Special Weapons and Tactics things seems a bit over the top, especially coming from the UK where maybe some cop will maybe knock on the door and ask if everything is ok.

consumer451 5y ago
I imagine that police responding to a home in a country which is armed to the teeth is quite different.

vorticalbox 5y ago

to play devils advocaat. Is it not better for the police to wrongfully turn up to a potentially dangerous situation then to not and people get hurt or killed?

trymas 5y ago
Problem is how violent US policing is [0]. Police/SWAT do not turn up to assess the situation. It looks like they turn up to release their anger, aggression and "play" with their assault weapons. Swatters do this, because it will cause big material and mental losses to the victim, with a high chance of death [1]. In this case police/swat is a "poor man's assassin". It's very funny for me to read "Measures against swatting" from that wiki article ([1]), when it happens only in US (and maybe Brazil). This does not happen in other 1st world country, because police is accountable for their ammunition and especially citizens shot. In US you can instigate fake raids and kill innocent people in their sleep, and nothing will happen to you as long as you say that you feared for your life. [2] [0] I know I am stereotyping, though from western 1st world countries US is undoubtedly the leader in police violence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforc... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting#Injuries_or_deaths_due_to_swatting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting#Injuries_or_deaths_du... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Breonna_Taylor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Breonna_Taylor
throwaway0a5e 5y ago
>Is it not better for the police to wrongfully turn up to a potentially dangerous situation then to not and people get hurt or killed? Not so long as they tend to leave a trail of citations for petty BS infractions nobody cares about and everyone resents wherever they go.