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I saw this in another thread, opened the link, tried clicking around, nothing happened so I closed it. I also tried dragging elements but it didn't work, or dou

by XCSme 5y ago

I saw this in another thread, opened the link, tried clicking around, nothing happened so I closed it. I also tried dragging elements but it didn't work, or double clicking a cell to add new content. If it is optimized for keyboard shortcuts you should clearly show those shortcuts at all times by default. Overall the UX is really poor, very hard to find out how to achieve your desired result. You should look at people using the interface, if you are used to it, it will be hard for you to understand what works and what doesn't. Maybe session recordings can help understand what people are trying to do (see my top level comment for a possible tool to help you).

escot 5y ago
Thanks. Ive updated the UI since I last posted in the thread you mention. You can know click on nodes to add new ones, and drag nodes to connect them. Did you try the most recent version? Hopefully its more intuitive, but youre right its probably time I made a tutorial.
- XCSme 5y ago
  I checked it at the time of posting the above comment, so I could still not intuitively use the interface (for example the dragging feels strange, there is no preview of the dragging and I would expect drag to move cells not to connect them, for connection I would expect to drag a "connect" handle or something like that). I don't think the tutorial is the way to go, I would focus more on improving the UI/UX so it's more intuitive and doesn't need a complex tutorial.
  - escot 5y ago
    People are conditioned to want to rearrange the layout because thats how most flowchart editors work, but its a feature of knotend that the layout is automatic. So theres a mismatch in expectations and Im trying to find the right ux to communicate that you should just add and connect nodes, not rearrange.
    - XCSme 5y ago
      I wouldn't try to rearrange the layout if I liked the default one. If you can not change I think it should be improved, it feels a bit crammed with not a lot of spacing and also having the lines connecting cells. One big UX issue with not being able to rearrange stuff is that I can not order the items in a column by dragging.

by XCSme 5y ago

escot 5y ago

Thanks. Ive updated the UI since I last posted in the thread you mention. You can know click on nodes to add new ones, and drag nodes to connect them. Did you try the most recent version? Hopefully its more intuitive, but youre right its probably time I made a tutorial.

XCSme 5y ago
I checked it at the time of posting the above comment, so I could still not intuitively use the interface (for example the dragging feels strange, there is no preview of the dragging and I would expect drag to move cells not to connect them, for connection I would expect to drag a "connect" handle or something like that). I don't think the tutorial is the way to go, I would focus more on improving the UI/UX so it's more intuitive and doesn't need a complex tutorial.
- escot 5y ago
  People are conditioned to want to rearrange the layout because thats how most flowchart editors work, but its a feature of knotend that the layout is automatic. So theres a mismatch in expectations and Im trying to find the right ux to communicate that you should just add and connect nodes, not rearrange.
  - XCSme 5y ago
    I wouldn't try to rearrange the layout if I liked the default one. If you can not change I think it should be improved, it feels a bit crammed with not a lot of spacing and also having the lines connecting cells. One big UX issue with not being able to rearrange stuff is that I can not order the items in a column by dragging.