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Those two are not comparable at all. One is a multinational corporation with untold influence which hoards exploits for black box software and hardware. The

Those two are not comparable at all. One is a multinational corporation with untold influence which hoards exploits for black box software and hardware. The other is a producer of physical weapons, which are subject to laws to protect civilians - although of course where these laws apply is hypocritical, since the West's weapons have been used to kill many civilians during all the 'peacekeeping' missions by the US (read: interventionism).

user-the-name 5y ago
If anything, that is worse. Colt intentionally made a tool that is only designed for killing people, and it was used to kill someone. To me, it's hard to justify why they are not responsible.
- beckman466 5y ago
  > Colt intentionally made a tool that is only designed for killing people, and it was used to kill someone. You could say the same about a knife though, or a brick. I think you're underestimating the power of the spyware that is being used today to blackmail and control those in power.
  - user-the-name 5y ago
    A knife or a brick are not (with a few exceptions) tools that are only designed for killing people, so no, I could not say that about them. (However, if you do sell a "Throat-cutting knife" for cutting people's throats, and someone buys it and cuts somebody's throat, then hell yes you are responsible for that.)
    - IndySun 5y ago
      >if you do sell a "Throat-cutting knife" ... you are responsible for that. Interesting thought. I can't find an example in law. I'm not so sure the seller is responsible on any level once sold, even with that murdering tagline. Guns are sold as lethal force and users are fully responsible post sale.
      - user-the-name 5y ago
        I am intensely uninterested in what the law says about any of this. I am interested in morality, not legality.
- gowld 5y ago
  Weapons are designed to intimidate targets into compliants, not necessarily to harm them.
  - user-the-name 5y ago
    No, they are designed specifically to harm. No part of a handgun is designed to intimidate, but every part of it is designed to kill a person.
    - IndySun 5y ago
      Ultimately, the human pulling the trigger is responsible; no matter the sales pitch or law.
kmlx 5y ago
> One is a multinational corporation with untold influence which hoards exploits for black box software and hardware. colt? or nso? not clear from the comment…
- beckman466 5y ago
  NSO Group

user-the-name 5y ago

If anything, that is worse. Colt intentionally made a tool that is only designed for killing people, and it was used to kill someone. To me, it's hard to justify why they are not responsible.

beckman466 5y ago
> Colt intentionally made a tool that is only designed for killing people, and it was used to kill someone. You could say the same about a knife though, or a brick. I think you're underestimating the power of the spyware that is being used today to blackmail and control those in power.
- user-the-name 5y ago
  A knife or a brick are not (with a few exceptions) tools that are only designed for killing people, so no, I could not say that about them. (However, if you do sell a "Throat-cutting knife" for cutting people's throats, and someone buys it and cuts somebody's throat, then hell yes you are responsible for that.)
  - IndySun 5y ago
    >if you do sell a "Throat-cutting knife" ... you are responsible for that. Interesting thought. I can't find an example in law. I'm not so sure the seller is responsible on any level once sold, even with that murdering tagline. Guns are sold as lethal force and users are fully responsible post sale.
    - user-the-name 5y ago
      I am intensely uninterested in what the law says about any of this. I am interested in morality, not legality.
gowld 5y ago
Weapons are designed to intimidate targets into compliants, not necessarily to harm them.
- user-the-name 5y ago
  No, they are designed specifically to harm. No part of a handgun is designed to intimidate, but every part of it is designed to kill a person.
  - IndySun 5y ago
    Ultimately, the human pulling the trigger is responsible; no matter the sales pitch or law.

kmlx 5y ago

> One is a multinational corporation with untold influence which hoards exploits for black box software and hardware. colt? or nso? not clear from the comment…

beckman466 5y ago
NSO Group