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This may be contentious but no matter the system, if your manager doesn't like you and decides to kick you out - you're in a tough spot. No PIP system means the
by arcticbull 5y ago
This may be contentious but no matter the system, if your manager doesn't like you and decides to kick you out - you're in a tough spot. No PIP system means they just straight-up fire you. PIP system means they let you know you're being fired and give you the chance to quit. Either way you're in a pickle. The only real defense against either is pre-existing political capital.
From an HR perspective I'm not sure there's any meaningful way to objectively separate an under-performer from someone whose manager has it out for them.
So, I'm kind of with them on this one. If you're going to get fired, then I doubt their sponsorship of your transfer would do you much good - you'd still be forced to return on departure would you not?
- Cthulhu_ 5y agoPro tip: If you're being fired, don't quit. Quitting is on you, firing is on the employer. If you get fired, you're (more?) entitled to benefits and if you feel like it was unjust you have a chance to appeal in court.
- yadaeno 5y agoKeep in mind that you are not obligated to disclose that you were fired to future employers. However your new employer may ask your previous for information which will likely be shared.
- arcticbull 5y agoMost big employers in my experience also have a neutral reference policy, meaning they won't opine on your tenure there except to say you worked there, for X dates and $Y salary. You're welcome to solicit a more specific reference from your choice of former coworkers.