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It's fine, the main problem is that 90% (imaginary data) of the cars in cities are not used. If all "normal" people used car sharing services or taxis, then a
by faeyanpiraat 5y ago
It's fine, the main problem is that 90% (imaginary data) of the cars in cities are not used.
If all "normal" people used car sharing services or taxis, then a lot of roads could have 1 more lane (where parking normally occurs), which would increase the throughput of the streets.
All the peak hour traffic circling around their destination struggling to find a parking spot would also disappear.
This would reduce the overall traffic noticeably, and everyone would get to their destination quicker and with less stress.
The problem with this is that so many people obbsess over vehicle ownership, that probably banning car ownership (with reasonable exceptions like modified cars for accomodating disabilities, oldtimers, cars with baby seats installed, etc..) in cities would be required to make this happen.
Speaking from an experience living in a big city, where I owned a car, but transitioned to using car sharing, even for long trips around the country.
- bmn__ 5y ago> the main problem is that 90% (imaginary data) of the cars in cities are not used Reality is even worse than your imagination. https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=cars+are+parked+*+of+the+time https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=cars+are+parked+*+of+t...
- usrusr 5y agoOne problem is that there's a long tail of car use cases that are served terribly by things like car-sharing. For example if you rent a car for a few hours of driving, two weeks of parking at some trailhead or remote resort and then driving back it's inevitably priced for the wear and tear that would happen if you spent the entire two weeks doing nothing but sleeping and driving. Rentals that aren't dead-set on the pattern "a few days of driving between arrival and departure" exist, but they have terrible discoverability and that implies that prices fell arbitrary ("is this close to the price I would get in a market with full visibility or are they just taking advantage of nonstandard needs?") I guess what I'm trying to say is that there's still plenty of room for innovation in the non-owned car market.
- Xylakant 5y agoI think people underestimate the price of owning a car vs. renting one. I can rent a VW Golf in Berlin for <350 EUR per week, 1000km included. The ADAC (car owners association) puts the monthly price tag for owning such a car at > 500 EUR per month. (assuming you buy it new, own it for 5 years and drive 15000km/year) https://www.adac.de/_mmm/pdf/autokostenuebersicht_47085.pdf https://www.adac.de/_mmm/pdf/autokostenuebersicht_47085.pdf That means I can rent that car for ~5 month and still come out ahead.
- isbadawi 5y agoThere must be a typo somewhere in your comment, I don't understand how 350/week for 5 months is better than 500/month.
- MawKKe 5y agoI guess what GP meant is that you can rent only whenever you need it, as opposed to 500/month for _every_ month you own?
- Xylakant 5y agoI actually meant “rent the car for X month”, but I made some mistakes here. First, I took the exact numbers for the calculation, but rounded them generously in favor of owning the car in the post. Second I made some sort of mistake, doing the math, so I’m still slightly off. The correct math: The smallest golf on the list is 579 EUR/Month, that’s 6.948 EUR per year. Renting a Golf at starcar costs 1436 EUR for the month of August. That’s 4.84, just shy of 5.
- dsr_ 5y ago"last mile" problems are real -- and frequently rather more than 1.6 Km.