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I just can't fathom how he gets his head so far up his behind with that hat. They're acting like this is entirely a modern problem, when I find it far more lik

I just can't fathom how he gets his head so far up his behind with that hat. They're acting like this is entirely a modern problem, when I find it far more likely that they're just now getting caught, and people don't fear the catholic church anymore. Modern media, and now watchful communities, are lifting the veil on horrific abuse. It doesn't just come out of nowhere. There's likely a history of this sort of crap going back as far as 3-400 ad, or as soon as there was an institution with the means and incentive to hide abusers and censor their crimes. Probably a lot of sanctioned murder if offending priests through the years, as well, to be charitable. Perverse incentives of the worst and most base kind seem to infest catholicism. I don't know if it's reasonable to expect rational reform when their fundamental world view is authoritarian magical thinking based on iron age myths and centuries of politics, graft and extortion of their flock.

fourtrees 5y ago
From Epstein to Savile to Weinstein, sexual abuse and cover-up is clearly not a uniquely Catholic or religious problem. By blaming religion alone, you're ignoring the other mechanisms that allow this to happen. With regard to this particular story, this guy, as far as we know, was just secretly gay and not technologically savvy. The real story in my view is how and why he was outed. It's not just priests who have a lot to lose by being revealed to be gay.
- robbedpeter 5y ago
  I never blamed religion. I simply point out that the Catholic church in particular has a long and egregious history of abuse.
  - fourtrees 5y ago
    Your right and I'm sorry for misrepresenting your argument. The RC Church does have a sordid history that anyone belonging to it (from the Pope on down) has somehow to come to terms with. Hopefully, the recent scandals will lead to a better organization: just by dint of its size and wealth it could do a lot more good for the world.

fourtrees 5y ago

From Epstein to Savile to Weinstein, sexual abuse and cover-up is clearly not a uniquely Catholic or religious problem. By blaming religion alone, you're ignoring the other mechanisms that allow this to happen. With regard to this particular story, this guy, as far as we know, was just secretly gay and not technologically savvy. The real story in my view is how and why he was outed. It's not just priests who have a lot to lose by being revealed to be gay.

robbedpeter 5y ago
I never blamed religion. I simply point out that the Catholic church in particular has a long and egregious history of abuse.
- fourtrees 5y ago
  Your right and I'm sorry for misrepresenting your argument. The RC Church does have a sordid history that anyone belonging to it (from the Pope on down) has somehow to come to terms with. Hopefully, the recent scandals will lead to a better organization: just by dint of its size and wealth it could do a lot more good for the world.