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The "hacked" part is only an assumption, isn't it? The leaked information could also come from, say, a whistleblower. An employee that suddenly developed a sens

The "hacked" part is only an assumption, isn't it? The leaked information could also come from, say, a whistleblower. An employee that suddenly developed a sense of ethics.

IndySun 5y ago
>only an assumption... leaked information could also come from... The first paragraph of the article broadly mentions an alt scenario. "Or, at least, an enormous trove of documents was leaked to journalists."
- jachee 5y ago
  Yeah… the press loves the term “hacked”. Remember when Voicemail PIN guessing was “phone hacking”?
samstave 5y ago
"hacked" is a distraction - you think that NSO is going to be "hacked" without a honeypot - or some other "thing" as to make them look weak? Nope. They are trying to plausibly deny their bullshit by saying "Ey... look -- weez alsa beenz haxd... we no do dis..." Yep - nope - fuck this company... *laughs all the way to the bank with palantir folks.....
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beermonster 5y ago
I had assumed a whistleblower until now. The worry with them being hacked is their tools leaking to public domain. If they do I hope Apple et al can plug the vectors
- swarnie_ 5y ago
  One unnamed company is still struggling to secure a print spooler after most of a month. I don't have the optimism you do.
  - beermonster 5y ago
    I think Apple have been trying to secure iMessage for nearly as long ! They’ll be following the story closely as it unfolds.
    - j16sdiz 5y ago
      I think apple have added a much more restricted sandbox for iMessage in the past few releases
      - beermonster 5y ago
        Yes [1] but it’s been proven to be ineffective for its intended purpose in these recent revelations. [1] https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2021/01/a-look-at-imessage-in-ios-14.html https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2021/01/a-look-at-ime...
pajko 5y ago
Seems like there was a $100,000 bounty on hacking them: > On Friday, Fisher claimed to have hacked the bank in 2016 and proposed a "Hacktivist Bug Hunting Program" that would offer bounties of up to $100,000 to those who hacked and dumped documents "in the public interest" from companies such as "South America, Israeli spyware vendor NSO Group, and oil company Halliburton." https://boingboing.net/2019/11/19/2tb-and-counting.html https://boingboing.net/2019/11/19/2tb-and-counting.html

The "hacked" part is only an assumption, isn't it? The leaked information could also come from, say, a whistleblower. An employee that suddenly developed a sense of ethics.

IndySun 5y ago

>only an assumption... leaked information could also come from... The first paragraph of the article broadly mentions an alt scenario. "Or, at least, an enormous trove of documents was leaked to journalists."

jachee 5y ago
Yeah… the press loves the term “hacked”. Remember when Voicemail PIN guessing was “phone hacking”?

samstave 5y ago

"hacked" is a distraction - you think that NSO is going to be "hacked" without a honeypot - or some other "thing" as to make them look weak? Nope. They are trying to plausibly deny their bullshit by saying "Ey... look -- weez alsa beenz haxd... we no do dis..." Yep - nope - fuck this company... *laughs all the way to the bank with palantir folks.....

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beermonster 5y ago

I had assumed a whistleblower until now. The worry with them being hacked is their tools leaking to public domain. If they do I hope Apple et al can plug the vectors

swarnie_ 5y ago
One unnamed company is still struggling to secure a print spooler after most of a month. I don't have the optimism you do.
- beermonster 5y ago
  I think Apple have been trying to secure iMessage for nearly as long ! They’ll be following the story closely as it unfolds.
  - j16sdiz 5y ago
    I think apple have added a much more restricted sandbox for iMessage in the past few releases
    - beermonster 5y ago
      Yes [1] but it’s been proven to be ineffective for its intended purpose in these recent revelations. [1] https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2021/01/a-look-at-imessage-in-ios-14.html https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2021/01/a-look-at-ime...

pajko 5y ago

Seems like there was a $100,000 bounty on hacking them: > On Friday, Fisher claimed to have hacked the bank in 2016 and proposed a "Hacktivist Bug Hunting Program" that would offer bounties of up to $100,000 to those who hacked and dumped documents "in the public interest" from companies such as "South America, Israeli spyware vendor NSO Group, and oil company Halliburton." https://boingboing.net/2019/11/19/2tb-and-counting.html https://boingboing.net/2019/11/19/2tb-and-counting.html