When I said "dead on arrival", I meant in my mind it was dead on arrival as something to be considered or humored. I don't think it should be touched with a 50

When I said "dead on arrival", I meant in my mind it was dead on arrival as something to be considered or humored. I don't think it should be touched with a 50 km pole. In practice, I acknowledge it's not dead in terms of adoption. (Though adoption is still minuscule compared to Bitcoin or Ethereum.) Similarly, "Q Clearance Patriot"'s predictive ability and insight was dead on arrival in my mind, even if in practice it clearly isn't in the minds of many. So I really meant "should-be-dead on arrival". Again, it may very well be true that it has legitimate technical merit. But that's orthogonal to the issue of its creator being a notorious, cult-leader-like serial fraudster. That doesn't mean the protocol specification should necessarily be discarded, but it definitely means that particular network and project should be.