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Moment I read the words "mistreated in their countries", first country which came to mind was USA.
by radmuzom 5y ago
Moment I read the words "mistreated in their countries", first country which came to mind was USA.
- spoonjim 5y agoHuh. Not Syria? South Sudan? Venezuela? Honduras? Belarus?
- radmuzom 5y agoNo these countries do not conduct terrorist activities or war crimes on foreign soil like the US does. Generally the first who come to mind are the ones who treat the whole world badly, in addition to their own people.
- pjc50 5y agoSeveral of those are in the middle of actual wars.
- radmuzom 5y agoYou might have missed "on foreign soil like the US does". And few of them are just attempts by US or parts of Europe to destabilize the country for their own gain.
- sharikone 5y agoIran? Last I checked they were trying to destabilize Syria, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Iraq, Yemen. Syria? Lebanon comes to mind again Russia, Armenia, Azerbaijan? All of them are involved in "foreign soil" in some way Egypt and Turkey vis-a-vis Libya (and Cyprus)? Serbia/Albania vis-a-vis Kosovo Morocco (Mali, Western Sahara)? All of them are better than the US? Not to mention that the behavior of a country "on foreign soil" is often very different than its behavior with its own citizens. That's why this division of good/evil countries often does not make sense.
- trasz 5y agoI think the point here is that US always wages wars far away from their land, so they don’t have to worry about consequences or casualties. For most other countries war is something quite different from the usual business.
- hnbad 5y agoSyria is in a civil war, with Russia and Iran assisting the Assad government and various other nations including the US having intervened at various points. South Sudan's civil war ended last year. Venezuela is not at war but is being embargoed by the US while facing an economic crisis. I have no idea what Honduras is supposed to be doing except that it's overrun with crime. Belarus is facing civil unrests and political upheaval. I'm not sure what you're referring to with your claim of "several" of them being in the middle of "actual wars". The US is in the middle of several actual wars and military actions outside war in foreign territories (mostly drone strikes). The comment you responded to clearly stated: > No these countries do not conduct terrorist activities or war crimes on foreign soil like the US does. The US does both of these things. As do several of its allies. We just tend to not to think of these things this way because we're "the good guys". Let's not forget Guantanamo (which despite Obama's promises still exists) and that US prisons routinely use "solitary confinement" which is considered torture by the UN.
- puszczyk 5y ago>> Syria? South Sudan? Venezuela? Honduras? Belarus? > these countries do not conduct terrorist activities or war crimes in a foreign soil Are you sure you comment on a good faith here?
- CatDogSheep 5y agoGoto Central African Republic, survive for a month, and then talk.
- spoonjim 5y agoOh, I see, you thought of the US as the mistreater of people in foreign countries rather than domestically? That I can agree with — someone being mistreated in their country is very unlikely to be in the US (except for a very expansive definition of mistreated) but quite likely to be in a country where the US is harming people.
- yosito 5y agoAs someone who does not live in the US, that strikes me as an incredibly spoiled and American-centric perspective. You do realize that the US is not the only country with human rights issues, and that the domestic issues in the US pale in comparison to much of the world? Consider the domestic issues in Latin America, Africa and the Middle East.
- radmuzom 5y agoI’m Indian, settled in Malaysia and a very strong supporter of China. Lived or been to several countries in East Asia or Oceania. Strongly leftist and socialist. So it is unlikely that I have an American perspective. And no, I disagree that other countries pale in comparison to US on human rights abuses. To me, for example, the very existence of the 2nd amendment (at least its current interpretation) is a human rights abuse.
- ahtihn 5y agoI don't see how the right to bear arms, interpreted in any way, could possibly be a human rights abuse. Which human right is being abused by the 2nd amendment?
- nivenkos 5y ago150k+ starting salaries when the rest of the world never reaches that even for senior engineers.... right. The US is the most privileged country on the planet, just look at the per capita CO2 emissions with their private AC and swimming pools, SUVs, etc.
- zimpenfish 5y ago> The US is the most privileged country on the planet ...for some of its population. For others, no.
- trasz 5y agoTrue, but as a country the US is definitely most privileged. And it really likes to abuse that privilege.
- 908B64B197 5y ago> 150k+ starting salaries when the rest of the world never reaches that even for senior engineers.... right. That's what happens when you work hard to build a world leading industry. I don't get why other countries whine instead of innovating themselves!