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What do you propose as an alternative? They can’t send unarmed cops to respond to reports of gun violence, and it wouldn’t be responsible to simply send one cop

What do you propose as an alternative? They can’t send unarmed cops to respond to reports of gun violence, and it wouldn’t be responsible to simply send one cop. By all accounts, the police responded appropriately and de-escalating the situation when the man came outside with a gun. I don’t understand what people want to be different about this situation, other than for the police to become clairvoyant so they can know when reports are false before they get there.

coldtea 5y ago
>What do you propose as an alternative? From the police that regularly chokes people, shots unarmed men, women, and even kids, and likes to play with military gear, and are trigger happy? Probably one can't expect much of them, anyway. A competent police would have set up some kind of barricade to stand behind, call for the person to come out, try to watch the house from afar to see what's going on, and in any case, not have several people stand with drawn weapons aiming at a person...
- beervirus 5y ago
  Yes, when there's a report that a gunman has already shot someone, the police should respond by... hiding.
  - coldtea 5y ago
    Of course not, they should respond Hollywood-style, so that they create chaos and even more people get a chance to be shot, Mexican Standoff style. After all if "a gunman has already shot someone", the police can obviously bring that person back to life by charging into the scene guns ablazing... And, as many SWATing cases have shown us, "when there's a report that a gunman has already shot someone" it's necessarily true! /s
trhway 5y ago
>What do you propose as an alternative Send the drones ahead. Flying, walking, tracked, wheeling.
- cortesoft 5y ago
  Like that wouldn’t cause a heart attack?
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- xaedes 5y ago
  Why send the officers at all and risk their lifes, can't we just install weapons on the drones? Oh yea we probably can. dramatic evil music starts
denton-scratch 5y ago
> it wouldn’t be responsible to simply send one cop Does that even happen in the USA? I'm in the UK, and I can't remember the last time I saw a solitary cop - they patrol in pairs here.
- throwaway0a5e 5y ago
  For low priority stuff it's common enough I'd say it's the standard.
- Ichthypresbyter 5y ago
  I've heard serving UK police officers elsewhere online say that their department's standard response to reports of hostage situations is to send one officer to drive past the premises in either an unmarked car or their personal car* to see if the report checks out. In general, cuts to the police have made single crewing a lot more common. *With the exception of dog handlers, British police aren't allowed to drive home in their patrol cars.
rchaud 5y ago
> By all accounts, the police responded appropriately and de-escalating the situation when the man came outside with a gun. Whose accounts would those be of? Is there a video available for review? The original Minneapolis PD's report on George Floyd was the only official account of the events prior to the medical examiner's report, and was specifically written to be as detail-free as legally possible. https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a36179698/minneapolis-police-first-statement-george-floyd/ https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a36179698/minneapolis-...

coldtea 5y ago

>What do you propose as an alternative? From the police that regularly chokes people, shots unarmed men, women, and even kids, and likes to play with military gear, and are trigger happy? Probably one can't expect much of them, anyway. A competent police would have set up some kind of barricade to stand behind, call for the person to come out, try to watch the house from afar to see what's going on, and in any case, not have several people stand with drawn weapons aiming at a person...

beervirus 5y ago
Yes, when there's a report that a gunman has already shot someone, the police should respond by... hiding.
- coldtea 5y ago
  Of course not, they should respond Hollywood-style, so that they create chaos and even more people get a chance to be shot, Mexican Standoff style. After all if "a gunman has already shot someone", the police can obviously bring that person back to life by charging into the scene guns ablazing... And, as many SWATing cases have shown us, "when there's a report that a gunman has already shot someone" it's necessarily true! /s

trhway 5y ago

>What do you propose as an alternative Send the drones ahead. Flying, walking, tracked, wheeling.

cortesoft 5y ago
Like that wouldn’t cause a heart attack?
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xaedes 5y ago
Why send the officers at all and risk their lifes, can't we just install weapons on the drones? Oh yea we probably can. dramatic evil music starts

denton-scratch 5y ago

> it wouldn’t be responsible to simply send one cop Does that even happen in the USA? I'm in the UK, and I can't remember the last time I saw a solitary cop - they patrol in pairs here.

throwaway0a5e 5y ago
For low priority stuff it's common enough I'd say it's the standard.
Ichthypresbyter 5y ago
I've heard serving UK police officers elsewhere online say that their department's standard response to reports of hostage situations is to send one officer to drive past the premises in either an unmarked car or their personal car* to see if the report checks out. In general, cuts to the police have made single crewing a lot more common. *With the exception of dog handlers, British police aren't allowed to drive home in their patrol cars.

rchaud 5y ago

> By all accounts, the police responded appropriately and de-escalating the situation when the man came outside with a gun. Whose accounts would those be of? Is there a video available for review? The original Minneapolis PD's report on George Floyd was the only official account of the events prior to the medical examiner's report, and was specifically written to be as detail-free as legally possible. https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a36179698/minneapolis-police-first-statement-george-floyd/ https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a36179698/minneapolis-...