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I don't know what the right thing(tm) is here but I do know I've seen people on psychedelics do things they never would have otherwise done. Just one example: J

by RayVR 5y ago

I don't know what the right thing(tm) is here but I do know I've seen people on psychedelics do things they never would have otherwise done. Just one example: Jumping from a third story balcony. He was lucky to only break both legs. The people that argue for decriminalizing/legalizing all of these drugs are usually the same people that argue firearms should be banned based on a bunch of arguments that could easily be used to argue against drugs. Ultimately, now that I have children, I can't imagine living in California. The decisions they make feel "progressive" but result in more harm and a decline in the quality of life for many people.

s1artibartfast 5y ago
The point is to transition the responsibility from the government to the parent and individual. My fairly libertarian perspective is that it is the job of the parent and induvial to educate themselves and make choices about risky behavior that only impacts themselves. If you want to take up base jumping, seeing how many hamburgers you can eat a day, or simply kill yourself, YOU should decide what your priorities are. Someone can make utilitarian arguments all day long about what laws would optimize the quality of life, but this ultimately places the needs of the society over the individual. Please teach your children about the risks of drugs, and not rely on the government to control their actions instead.
pmoriarty 5y ago
"I've seen people on psychedelics do things they never would have otherwise done. Just one example: Jumping from a third story balcony. He was lucky to only break both legs." People do stupid shit like that (and much worse) on alcohol all the time. Yet most people are rarely as worried about alcohol availability as they are about the availability of psychedelics... why is that?
- stkdump 5y ago
  The argument I hear is that alcohol is an exception due to historical/cultural reasons. If alcohol would have started to become widely available/used as recently as most illegal drugs, if would probably be prohibited.

by RayVR 5y ago

s1artibartfast 5y ago

The point is to transition the responsibility from the government to the parent and individual. My fairly libertarian perspective is that it is the job of the parent and induvial to educate themselves and make choices about risky behavior that only impacts themselves. If you want to take up base jumping, seeing how many hamburgers you can eat a day, or simply kill yourself, YOU should decide what your priorities are. Someone can make utilitarian arguments all day long about what laws would optimize the quality of life, but this ultimately places the needs of the society over the individual. Please teach your children about the risks of drugs, and not rely on the government to control their actions instead.

pmoriarty 5y ago

"I've seen people on psychedelics do things they never would have otherwise done. Just one example: Jumping from a third story balcony. He was lucky to only break both legs." People do stupid shit like that (and much worse) on alcohol all the time. Yet most people are rarely as worried about alcohol availability as they are about the availability of psychedelics... why is that?

stkdump 5y ago
The argument I hear is that alcohol is an exception due to historical/cultural reasons. If alcohol would have started to become widely available/used as recently as most illegal drugs, if would probably be prohibited.