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On the flip side, the first time I took LSD I realized I hated my job and it was what put me into the lucrative path I ended up in. Personally, I use psychedeli

On the flip side, the first time I took LSD I realized I hated my job and it was what put me into the lucrative path I ended up in. Personally, I use psychedelics to gain (what I perceive to be) a potentially more honest perspective on who I am and how I feel about things. Some of the least enjoyable trips I've had resulted in the more profound positive impacts in my life, but I realize that's not going to be the case for everyone.

pmoriarty 5y ago
"Some of the least enjoyable trips I've had resulted in the more profound positive impacts in my life" This is something that really needs to be understood and appreciated more -- especially among those who have little experience with psychedelics. So many people are afraid of "bad trips", but those kinds of trips can be some of the most healing and instructive of all, if we can bear to face our own demons and try to learn something from the experience instead of just running away.
- InvertedRhodium 5y ago
  I agree, to a certain extent - sometimes "facing your demons" isn't the best course of action in all instances and being self-aware enough to recognise that you're not in a position to do so will probably reach a better outcome than trying to do it anyway.
- MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
  The main issue with drugs isn't the drug. It's the peer group who tend to do those drugs. My cousin didn't hang out with bad kids, but they were like the enlightened Joe Rogan types that understand the system is corrupt but don't realize yet (because they're too young and inexperienced) that you can't do anything about it or "armchair activism" as you will. So go figure these people live in the present and ignore the repercussions for the future. On paper Joe Rogan is right in many things he says. To an untrained and inexperienced mind, you should definitely not take anything he says without understanding: he didn't start taking drugs till he had a solid career, he only did them with trusted friends, he did them when they wouldn't affect his job, he has a safe supply that he can get, on top of having a safe space to be when he does them. Not exactly the same experience as someone who can lose a job over it or go to prison for possession.
- rrrrrrrrrrrryan 5y ago
  IIRC over 70% of people who have "bad" trips don't regret the experience, because the negative sensations were outweighed by what they learned. In new clinical settings, "good trips" and "bad trips" are becoming antiquated terminology: "easy trips" and "difficult trips" are the new descriptors, and I think they're better. Your trip may be difficult, but that doesn't necessarily make it bad.

pmoriarty 5y ago

"Some of the least enjoyable trips I've had resulted in the more profound positive impacts in my life" This is something that really needs to be understood and appreciated more -- especially among those who have little experience with psychedelics. So many people are afraid of "bad trips", but those kinds of trips can be some of the most healing and instructive of all, if we can bear to face our own demons and try to learn something from the experience instead of just running away.

InvertedRhodium 5y ago
I agree, to a certain extent - sometimes "facing your demons" isn't the best course of action in all instances and being self-aware enough to recognise that you're not in a position to do so will probably reach a better outcome than trying to do it anyway.
MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
The main issue with drugs isn't the drug. It's the peer group who tend to do those drugs. My cousin didn't hang out with bad kids, but they were like the enlightened Joe Rogan types that understand the system is corrupt but don't realize yet (because they're too young and inexperienced) that you can't do anything about it or "armchair activism" as you will. So go figure these people live in the present and ignore the repercussions for the future. On paper Joe Rogan is right in many things he says. To an untrained and inexperienced mind, you should definitely not take anything he says without understanding: he didn't start taking drugs till he had a solid career, he only did them with trusted friends, he did them when they wouldn't affect his job, he has a safe supply that he can get, on top of having a safe space to be when he does them. Not exactly the same experience as someone who can lose a job over it or go to prison for possession.
rrrrrrrrrrrryan 5y ago
IIRC over 70% of people who have "bad" trips don't regret the experience, because the negative sensations were outweighed by what they learned. In new clinical settings, "good trips" and "bad trips" are becoming antiquated terminology: "easy trips" and "difficult trips" are the new descriptors, and I think they're better. Your trip may be difficult, but that doesn't necessarily make it bad.