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Dumbing things down and making them easier is never a solution for progress, my opinion is that this type of thinking will doom education. Which once again remi

Dumbing things down and making them easier is never a solution for progress, my opinion is that this type of thinking will doom education. Which once again reminds me that people could create their own schools, parents could form their own cohorts and hire their own teachers, which I think is coming and it’ll be a wave that will empty out the public schools of any child whose parents can afford it.

dragonwriter 5y ago
> Dumbing things down and making them easier is never a solution for progress No one has argued that it is. What you need to do is support the argument that what you are opposed to (the framework? the proposal to replace it?) is, covertly, despite its express presentation to the contrary, about dumbing things down.
- underseacables 5y ago
  Math has only two results: right or wrong. Under the proposal, mathematics is flexible with no right or wrong answer. Ergo the two are in conflict, which means we must consider the factual record: math DOES have a right or wrong answer, therefore proposal is incorrect on its face and as we all know, mathematical inaccuracies lead to VERY bad outcomes. 1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider 2. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Climate_Orbiter https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Climate_Orbiter Would you prefer mathematics to be right, or just good enough?
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    > Under the proposal, mathematics is flexible with no right or wrong answer. Please cite the specific material in the framework that supports your characterization that it holds that “mathematics is flexible with no right or wrong answer.”
    - underseacables 5y ago
      “The concept of mathematics being purely objective is unequivocally false,” the manual explains. “Upholding the idea that there are always right and wrong answers perpetuates ‘objectivity.’“ I generally don’t feed trolls, but I’m gonna give you the benefit of the doubt.
      - dragonwriter 5y ago
        > “The concept of mathematics being purely objective is unequivocally false,” the manual explains. “Upholding the idea that there are always right and wrong answers perpetuates ‘objectivity.’“ You do realize that this is a quote from a document cited elsewhere in the thread which is not the curriculum framework being discussed, but a different document adopted as a guideline by a different authority? So, about the actual framework...

dragonwriter 5y ago

> Dumbing things down and making them easier is never a solution for progress No one has argued that it is. What you need to do is support the argument that what you are opposed to (the framework? the proposal to replace it?) is, covertly, despite its express presentation to the contrary, about dumbing things down.

underseacables 5y ago
Math has only two results: right or wrong. Under the proposal, mathematics is flexible with no right or wrong answer. Ergo the two are in conflict, which means we must consider the factual record: math DOES have a right or wrong answer, therefore proposal is incorrect on its face and as we all know, mathematical inaccuracies lead to VERY bad outcomes. 1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider 2. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Climate_Orbiter https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Climate_Orbiter Would you prefer mathematics to be right, or just good enough?
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > Under the proposal, mathematics is flexible with no right or wrong answer. Please cite the specific material in the framework that supports your characterization that it holds that “mathematics is flexible with no right or wrong answer.”
  - underseacables 5y ago
    “The concept of mathematics being purely objective is unequivocally false,” the manual explains. “Upholding the idea that there are always right and wrong answers perpetuates ‘objectivity.’“ I generally don’t feed trolls, but I’m gonna give you the benefit of the doubt.
    - dragonwriter 5y ago
      > “The concept of mathematics being purely objective is unequivocally false,” the manual explains. “Upholding the idea that there are always right and wrong answers perpetuates ‘objectivity.’“ You do realize that this is a quote from a document cited elsewhere in the thread which is not the curriculum framework being discussed, but a different document adopted as a guideline by a different authority? So, about the actual framework...