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jedberg 5y ago
Sure, but what is the use case of browsing that with a web browser? Both Finder and Explorer can natively support ftp, and there are plenty of other clients.
- JackGreyhat 5y ago
  You asked for a scenario in which you need ftp in 2021. You handled my example by switching to another program, such as finder or explorer. That's fine. Do you agree that your user experience decreased by having to switch programs?
  - jedberg 5y ago
    > Do you agree that your user experience decreased by having to switch programs? No, because it opened automatically and was nearly seamless. I didn't even notice that I'd been moved to Finder at first.
    - JackGreyhat 5y ago
      Try pressing the back button.
    - antisol 5y ago
      hahaha. "my UX wasn't diminished" "nearly seamless" That's pretty funny.
    - antisol 5y ago
      Whoa... I missed this earlier. >I didn't even notice that I'd been moved to Finder at first. You... can't tell finder from a web browser?? There goes 100% of your credibility with regard to UX.
      - jedberg 5y ago
        You really like to take the worst possible interpretation of whatever someone says, don't you? Of course I can tell the difference between a browser and the finder. My point was the transition was so seamless that I thought Safari was embedding the finder in the Safari window until I looked up at the app bar and realized it had actually switched apps. But feel free to go on dismissing me, since it's clear from your comments that you think no one in the world is right but you.
        kragen 5y ago
        > But feel free to go on dismissing me, since it's clear from your comments that you think no one in the world is right but you. You know, you're really not in a good position to criticize other people in this conversation with exaggerated complaints about their intellectual arrogance.
        antisol 5y ago
        What "worst possible interpretation"? You were the one who claimed you didn't realise you had switched from safari to the finder. Which is exactly equivalent to saying "I have no clue what I'm looking at and pay zero attention to detail". In a conversation where you're discussing those very details. What's the "good" interpretation? That you suffer from an attention deficit disorder, so it's not your fault that you have no clue what you're looking at and the things you're saying are patently ridiculous? > I thought Safari was embedding the finder in the Safari window So, to summarise, your argument is that you have no idea about how your software works or what it does. It felt "seamless" to you because you had no idea what to expect and think your browser magically embeds other applications now. Just in case I wasn't clear last time: If you think that switching to an entirely different different application is a reasonable thing to miss, you have zero credibility where UX is concerned. >it's clear from your comments that you think no one in the world is right but you. Lots of people who aren't me are right. It's just that statistically speaking those people tend to agree with me on most things. Kragen, for example, has been saying things that are right all day (In particular I found this treatise on security stuff to be damn near sexy: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27900935 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27900935). Even some people who disagree with me on a bunch of points have said things that are right. It's happened today. And you'll see me acknowledge them when they happen if you look. The reason you haven't seen that is because you haven't said anything that was right. But if you really believed this assertion you could easily prove it accurate: All you'd need to do is say "OK, yes, I had no clue what I was looking at. I don't know why I thought the finder was in a web browser. I guess I was just confused. That was dumb and inattentive of me". If your theory is accurate I won't be able to agree with that.

Sure, but what is the use case of browsing that with a web browser? Both Finder and Explorer can natively support ftp, and there are plenty of other clients.

JackGreyhat 5y ago
You asked for a scenario in which you need ftp in 2021. You handled my example by switching to another program, such as finder or explorer. That's fine. Do you agree that your user experience decreased by having to switch programs?
- jedberg 5y ago
  > Do you agree that your user experience decreased by having to switch programs? No, because it opened automatically and was nearly seamless. I didn't even notice that I'd been moved to Finder at first.
  - JackGreyhat 5y ago
    Try pressing the back button.
  - antisol 5y ago
    hahaha. "my UX wasn't diminished" "nearly seamless" That's pretty funny.
  - antisol 5y ago
    Whoa... I missed this earlier. >I didn't even notice that I'd been moved to Finder at first. You... can't tell finder from a web browser?? There goes 100% of your credibility with regard to UX.
    - jedberg 5y ago
      You really like to take the worst possible interpretation of whatever someone says, don't you? Of course I can tell the difference between a browser and the finder. My point was the transition was so seamless that I thought Safari was embedding the finder in the Safari window until I looked up at the app bar and realized it had actually switched apps. But feel free to go on dismissing me, since it's clear from your comments that you think no one in the world is right but you.
      - kragen 5y ago
        > But feel free to go on dismissing me, since it's clear from your comments that you think no one in the world is right but you. You know, you're really not in a good position to criticize other people in this conversation with exaggerated complaints about their intellectual arrogance.
      - antisol 5y ago
        What "worst possible interpretation"? You were the one who claimed you didn't realise you had switched from safari to the finder. Which is exactly equivalent to saying "I have no clue what I'm looking at and pay zero attention to detail". In a conversation where you're discussing those very details. What's the "good" interpretation? That you suffer from an attention deficit disorder, so it's not your fault that you have no clue what you're looking at and the things you're saying are patently ridiculous? > I thought Safari was embedding the finder in the Safari window So, to summarise, your argument is that you have no idea about how your software works or what it does. It felt "seamless" to you because you had no idea what to expect and think your browser magically embeds other applications now. Just in case I wasn't clear last time: If you think that switching to an entirely different different application is a reasonable thing to miss, you have zero credibility where UX is concerned. >it's clear from your comments that you think no one in the world is right but you. Lots of people who aren't me are right. It's just that statistically speaking those people tend to agree with me on most things. Kragen, for example, has been saying things that are right all day (In particular I found this treatise on security stuff to be damn near sexy: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27900935 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27900935). Even some people who disagree with me on a bunch of points have said things that are right. It's happened today. And you'll see me acknowledge them when they happen if you look. The reason you haven't seen that is because you haven't said anything that was right. But if you really believed this assertion you could easily prove it accurate: All you'd need to do is say "OK, yes, I had no clue what I was looking at. I don't know why I thought the finder was in a web browser. I guess I was just confused. That was dumb and inattentive of me". If your theory is accurate I won't be able to agree with that.