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Understand this: ftp has been with the browser for 25 years. Ftp has been with the web. Ftp is part of the web. No one cares that ftp is not really what browser
by nashashmi 5y ago
Understand this: ftp has been with the browser for 25 years. Ftp has been with the web. Ftp is part of the web. No one cares that ftp is not really what browsers are made for. Browsers is how people access ftp. That’s it. And they have been used in of web pages too.
- TheRealPomax 5y agoYeah, really gonna need some numbers here, though, because literally no one I know younger than 40 even knows what FTP is, let alone having used it. Even Apache 1 can expose dirs over http instead of ftp, there is literally no reason for FTP unless you want uploads. In which case: no you don't, you want sftp at the very least, because you care about the fact that you want data that gets uploaded to be your data, not the data that a MITM trivially changed it to. Which FTP fully allows.
- layoutIfNeeded 5y agoI'm 30 years old and using FTP daily.
- mattl 5y agoFor what? What client?
- antisol 5y agoI use it for....drumroll... transferring files usually waterfox if I'm only transferring one, something else if I need to do a bunch.
- layoutIfNeeded 5y agoTransferring huge files. The client is FileZilla.
- mattl 5y agoWhy not use SFTP or rsync at this point?
- layoutIfNeeded 5y agoSFTP is slow. https://serverfault.com/questions/559501/ftp-ftps-sftp-scp-speed-comparison#559554 https://serverfault.com/questions/559501/ftp-ftps-sftp-scp-s... https://support.cerberusftp.com/hc/en-us/articles/203333215-Why-is-SSH2-SFTP-so-much-slower-than-FTP-and-FTPS- https://support.cerberusftp.com/hc/en-us/articles/203333215-... Rsync is not available on the target machine.
- wizzwizz4 5y ago> because literally no one I know younger than 40 even knows what FTP is, let alone having used it. How many of them know what TLS is? Yet they've probably used it. With computers, you don't need to know what something is to have used it.
- TheRealPomax 5y agoSure, they also use C6H12O6 every day, and interbank networks, but if we listed everything that wasn't similar to FTP we'd be here a while. FTP is "a thing" you intentionally use. You connect to FTP servers, and upload or download files, in the same way that HTTP is a thing you intentionally use to consumer web pages. TLS it just an aspect of how connections are negotiated and is on a completely different rung of the ladder of abstraction.
- wizzwizz4 5y ago> in the same way that HTTP is a thing you intentionally use to consumer web pages. Nope. I just clicky the link.
- hulitu 5y agono one I know younger than 40 even knows what http or https is. Https can also be MITM.
- TheRealPomax 5y agoHTTPS can be MITM'd, but absolutely not trivially, unlike FTP.