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A significant goal of the movement is to bring to light just how insecure systems can be, and to not trust those who fail to protect. And to claim all they coul

A significant goal of the movement is to bring to light just how insecure systems can be, and to not trust those who fail to protect. And to claim all they could do then is to DoS is the same BS write-off that you hear around here everyday, which is also disproven daily. Nothing is ever that secure. But do you really think all this will cause govts/corporations the get more serious about security? Why now and not a decade, two decades ago?

peterwwillis 15y ago
No, sorry, that's bullshit. AntiSec is a movement against the computer security industry. They want everything to be insecure. And it's not a write-off... they literally have no skills. Only idiots would start a campaign like the one they have and continue to shift their ideology to support whatever bullshit deface they've done now. They pick whatever low hanging fruit has a .gov, .mil or corporate presence, or take requests from twitter and hit whoever seems the funniest. It's a joke. It's Lulz. No, I don't think it'll actually cause people to secure stuff more. Maybe if enough confidential customer information leaks the govt will finally pass another bullshit SOX-like law to try and improve things, and fail horribly. But it would be nice if it did.
- munin 15y ago
  they don't want things to be insecure, they want the computer security industry to stop being bullshit. the true irony of course is that all the flailings of the antisec movement will result in is greater revenues for the same computer security industry they hate. hacktivism isn't working.
  - peterwwillis 15y ago
    i agree on the last two points. it's been fun, but at the end of the day the kids go to jail and the people in suits get bigger contracts. once i was on a panel answering questions about the roles of 'malware authors' and vendors of security products (reps from M$, symantec, mcafee, etc). i was in a ski mask representing malware. what i reminded them (and everyone in the audience) was that without me, they wouldn't have a job; they need malware, black hats, etc in order to have something to sell. and if it works too well, they wouldn't be able to sell new versions of it. funny.

peterwwillis 15y ago

No, sorry, that's bullshit. AntiSec is a movement against the computer security industry. They want everything to be insecure. And it's not a write-off... they literally have no skills. Only idiots would start a campaign like the one they have and continue to shift their ideology to support whatever bullshit deface they've done now. They pick whatever low hanging fruit has a .gov, .mil or corporate presence, or take requests from twitter and hit whoever seems the funniest. It's a joke. It's Lulz. No, I don't think it'll actually cause people to secure stuff more. Maybe if enough confidential customer information leaks the govt will finally pass another bullshit SOX-like law to try and improve things, and fail horribly. But it would be nice if it did.

munin 15y ago
they don't want things to be insecure, they want the computer security industry to stop being bullshit. the true irony of course is that all the flailings of the antisec movement will result in is greater revenues for the same computer security industry they hate. hacktivism isn't working.
- peterwwillis 15y ago
  i agree on the last two points. it's been fun, but at the end of the day the kids go to jail and the people in suits get bigger contracts. once i was on a panel answering questions about the roles of 'malware authors' and vendors of security products (reps from M$, symantec, mcafee, etc). i was in a ski mask representing malware. what i reminded them (and everyone in the audience) was that without me, they wouldn't have a job; they need malware, black hats, etc in order to have something to sell. and if it works too well, they wouldn't be able to sell new versions of it. funny.