> Think all of their flights have been either crashes or fully orbital. Certainly applies to the operational launches of all their rocket vehicles, however the

> Think all of their flights have been either crashes or fully orbital. Certainly applies to the operational launches of all their rocket vehicles, however they've also done suborbital test flights with with Grasshopper, F9R, Starhopper, Starship (and maybe Super Heavy soon as well depending on if they do a sub-orbital with that first). The important difference is that SpaceX has never considered the Karman line as a target in its own right (somewhat rightly, its only value is for "whelming" space tourism).