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Looks like it's getting hugged to death: https://web.archive.org/web/20210716193902/https://artbma.org/about/press/release/bma-security-officers-take-center-sta

Looks like it's getting hugged to death: https://web.archive.org/web/20210716193902/https://artbma.org/about/press/release/bma-security-officers-take-center-stage-as-guest-curators-of-a-new-exhibition-opening-in-march-2022 https://web.archive.org/web/20210716193902/https://artbma.or... I love the BMA. It's a free museum with a great restaurant, cool exhibits, a nice park across the street. Nearby is The Book Thing, a free book store. Also another (non-free) book & record store, Normal's. And another, Urban Reads. And another bookstore/coffee shop, Bird in Hand. And a farmer's market. And a vegan restaurant. And the quirkiest diner ever, Papermoon. And a small rock venue. And a worker-owned co-op coffeeshop that President Obama visited. All in a four block radius. Dang, I miss Baltimore.

matthewdgreen 5y ago
It really gets better every year.
- throwaway6734 5y ago
  Amen to that! It's been exciting watching the city come back from 2015
  - leetcrew 5y ago
    I'm a lifelong resident, but I can't say I share your optimism. the per capita murder rate is still well above the worst years in the 90s, with 2019 setting an all time high. the population is still falling, rapidly in poorer neighborhoods but offset somewhat by growth in the wealthier ones. our current mayor has not been convicted of any crimes committed while in office (a low bar in other cities), but otherwise does not seem far from the standard fare. at least one key employer (t rowe) is hedging its bet with new offices outside the city limits. what exactly are you seeing improve? I guess it's a great time to sell property in the white L or be employed by the johns hopkins medical system, but other than that, I'm not seeing it.
    - throwaway6734 5y ago
      I thought trowe was moving to harbor east? My optimism is based on the consistent development in the L and it's expansion outwards. Hopkins medical will soon be connected to harbor east with the Perkins development. Station north continues to fill out. There's also been lots of development in federal hill and locust point. The murder rate is indeed ridiculously high, but I think it will subside as more development happens in the city as there will be more opportunity available.
      - linuxdude314 5y ago
        So what you’re really saying, is that you’re happy with the results and rate of gentrification occurring. Don’t take this as an insult or anything, it is what it is.
        throwaway6734 5y ago
        Gentrification is too broad of a word to mean anything. Baltimore has a glut of housing due to the massive population drop caused by white flight in the 70s.
      - leetcrew 5y ago
        you're right about t rowe, I confused the story about them moving their main office (to harbor east) with the fact they've opened an office in owings mills. apparently the reason for the move is safety concerns downtown, which is still not a great look for the city, but whatever. I'm not entirely sure how to feel about the expansion of the L. it's definitely good if you already live there (I do) and plan to stay (I hope to), and some of the areas being annexed are/were fairly close to hell on earth. it's not clear to me that the butterfly residents will benefit from the increased opportunities like you suggest; I think it's more likely they get gradually pushed out to less desirable parts of the county. but we'll see, and I'd rather be wrong!
willis936 5y ago
Quirky diners are one of the biggest things I miss from seacoast NH. What is there to do for tech work in Baltimore? All jobs I've seen are in the MIC, which I dislike.
- etempleton 5y ago
  There are quite a large number of well regarded universities and hospitals. In addition, Under Armour and a few other Fortune 500 companies are headquartered in Baltimore. Baltimore is a cool town. People have a perception of it based on national media, and don’t get me wrong, it has it’s share of issues, but every city does. It is one of the quirkiest, weirdest cities in the US. It is not quite a northern city and not quite southern either.
  - whimsicalism 5y ago
    > It is not quite a northern city and not quite southern either. That's because it is in the mid-atlantic! Baltimore reminds me of DC ~20 years ago.
- brianlweiner 5y ago
  There's still lots of non Military / Fed stuff! And it's getting better. https://www.sparkpost.com/ https://www.sparkpost.com/ https://www.cloudtamer.io/ https://www.cloudtamer.io/ https://www.contrastsecurity.com/ https://www.contrastsecurity.com/ A few off the top of my head. I'm currently working (remotely) for a BigCo that acquired my startup employer last year. Technical.ly can be a good resource for local postings. I've worked as a SWE in Baltimore for 10 years and have never had employment issues. I don't quite make SV money, but I make solid 6 figures and can afford a very nice home on just my salary and send my kids to private school, etc.
  - alexjplant 5y ago
    If you (OP of the parent's parent) do interview in the area be sure to dig in to find what the company's lines of business are. CloudTamer, for instance, is ostensibly a commercial product-based company but does business with federal agencies and contractors (per their web site) and was at the AWS Public Sector Summit a few years ago. A different company that I interviewed at in an adjacent space (security vs CloudTamer's compliance) was in a similar position... they were selling their product to the Air Force but swore up and down that they'd never contract with them outside of being a vendor. I was skeptical and my suspicions were proven correct six months later when they put out a press release announcing the award of an Air Force contract. Maryland/Northern Virginia are _not_ the places to be if you want career options outside of government [contracting] work. It's not un-doable but you'll be much better served looking for work in a place where 80% of the value of the economy doesn't revolve around Washington-type work.
smoldesu 5y ago
I used to head out there annually for... convention stuff, but I quite liked the city when I was passing through. Conditions there seem to be improving rapidly, too!
throwaway6734 5y ago
Sadly the book thing had been in a mostly closed state for the past few years due to tax issues. Luckily though greenmount is starting to clean up. Red Emma's is moving into the neighborhood soon as well
artie_effim 5y ago
there is this tee - Baltimore, Actually I Like It - you need it fam. Been here for 31 years, working in IT now, raising a family and all that. Balto is cool. https://atomicbooks.com/products/baltimore-actually-shirt https://atomicbooks.com/products/baltimore-actually-shirt
- f6v 5y ago
  Is The Wire real?
  - saghm 5y ago
    No, it's a fictional TV show
    - f6v 5y ago
      I'm glad I didn't ask about Santa then.
  - falcor84 5y ago
    I think it's as real as is possible for a piece of fiction to be
    - cdstyh 5y ago
      Yes. Worse things happen everyday in every hood in America.
  - ruined 5y ago
    no, the real omar was unfortunately heterosexual.
  - throwanem 5y ago
    I can't speak to the general case, but I have to give the show that the grain elevator did get turned into condos [1]. [1] http://www.silopoint.com/ http://www.silopoint.com/
  - 5y ago
gorwell 5y ago
Change my mind: "slashdotted" > "hugged to death"
astrange 5y ago
> And a worker-owned co-op coffeeshop that President Obama visited. They're just exploiting the hard work of the coffee bushes. (And their customers since the product is addictive.)

matthewdgreen 5y ago

It really gets better every year.

throwaway6734 5y ago
Amen to that! It's been exciting watching the city come back from 2015
- leetcrew 5y ago
  I'm a lifelong resident, but I can't say I share your optimism. the per capita murder rate is still well above the worst years in the 90s, with 2019 setting an all time high. the population is still falling, rapidly in poorer neighborhoods but offset somewhat by growth in the wealthier ones. our current mayor has not been convicted of any crimes committed while in office (a low bar in other cities), but otherwise does not seem far from the standard fare. at least one key employer (t rowe) is hedging its bet with new offices outside the city limits. what exactly are you seeing improve? I guess it's a great time to sell property in the white L or be employed by the johns hopkins medical system, but other than that, I'm not seeing it.
  - throwaway6734 5y ago
    I thought trowe was moving to harbor east? My optimism is based on the consistent development in the L and it's expansion outwards. Hopkins medical will soon be connected to harbor east with the Perkins development. Station north continues to fill out. There's also been lots of development in federal hill and locust point. The murder rate is indeed ridiculously high, but I think it will subside as more development happens in the city as there will be more opportunity available.
    - linuxdude314 5y ago
      So what you’re really saying, is that you’re happy with the results and rate of gentrification occurring. Don’t take this as an insult or anything, it is what it is.
      - throwaway6734 5y ago
        Gentrification is too broad of a word to mean anything. Baltimore has a glut of housing due to the massive population drop caused by white flight in the 70s.
    - leetcrew 5y ago
      you're right about t rowe, I confused the story about them moving their main office (to harbor east) with the fact they've opened an office in owings mills. apparently the reason for the move is safety concerns downtown, which is still not a great look for the city, but whatever. I'm not entirely sure how to feel about the expansion of the L. it's definitely good if you already live there (I do) and plan to stay (I hope to), and some of the areas being annexed are/were fairly close to hell on earth. it's not clear to me that the butterfly residents will benefit from the increased opportunities like you suggest; I think it's more likely they get gradually pushed out to less desirable parts of the county. but we'll see, and I'd rather be wrong!

willis936 5y ago

Quirky diners are one of the biggest things I miss from seacoast NH. What is there to do for tech work in Baltimore? All jobs I've seen are in the MIC, which I dislike.

etempleton 5y ago
There are quite a large number of well regarded universities and hospitals. In addition, Under Armour and a few other Fortune 500 companies are headquartered in Baltimore. Baltimore is a cool town. People have a perception of it based on national media, and don’t get me wrong, it has it’s share of issues, but every city does. It is one of the quirkiest, weirdest cities in the US. It is not quite a northern city and not quite southern either.
- whimsicalism 5y ago
  > It is not quite a northern city and not quite southern either. That's because it is in the mid-atlantic! Baltimore reminds me of DC ~20 years ago.
brianlweiner 5y ago
There's still lots of non Military / Fed stuff! And it's getting better. https://www.sparkpost.com/ https://www.sparkpost.com/ https://www.cloudtamer.io/ https://www.cloudtamer.io/ https://www.contrastsecurity.com/ https://www.contrastsecurity.com/ A few off the top of my head. I'm currently working (remotely) for a BigCo that acquired my startup employer last year. Technical.ly can be a good resource for local postings. I've worked as a SWE in Baltimore for 10 years and have never had employment issues. I don't quite make SV money, but I make solid 6 figures and can afford a very nice home on just my salary and send my kids to private school, etc.
- alexjplant 5y ago
  If you (OP of the parent's parent) do interview in the area be sure to dig in to find what the company's lines of business are. CloudTamer, for instance, is ostensibly a commercial product-based company but does business with federal agencies and contractors (per their web site) and was at the AWS Public Sector Summit a few years ago. A different company that I interviewed at in an adjacent space (security vs CloudTamer's compliance) was in a similar position... they were selling their product to the Air Force but swore up and down that they'd never contract with them outside of being a vendor. I was skeptical and my suspicions were proven correct six months later when they put out a press release announcing the award of an Air Force contract. Maryland/Northern Virginia are _not_ the places to be if you want career options outside of government [contracting] work. It's not un-doable but you'll be much better served looking for work in a place where 80% of the value of the economy doesn't revolve around Washington-type work.

smoldesu 5y ago

I used to head out there annually for... convention stuff, but I quite liked the city when I was passing through. Conditions there seem to be improving rapidly, too!

throwaway6734 5y ago

Sadly the book thing had been in a mostly closed state for the past few years due to tax issues. Luckily though greenmount is starting to clean up. Red Emma's is moving into the neighborhood soon as well

artie_effim 5y ago

there is this tee - Baltimore, Actually I Like It - you need it fam. Been here for 31 years, working in IT now, raising a family and all that. Balto is cool. https://atomicbooks.com/products/baltimore-actually-shirt https://atomicbooks.com/products/baltimore-actually-shirt

f6v 5y ago
Is The Wire real?
- saghm 5y ago
  No, it's a fictional TV show
  - f6v 5y ago
    I'm glad I didn't ask about Santa then.
- falcor84 5y ago
  I think it's as real as is possible for a piece of fiction to be
  - cdstyh 5y ago
    Yes. Worse things happen everyday in every hood in America.
- ruined 5y ago
  no, the real omar was unfortunately heterosexual.
- throwanem 5y ago
  I can't speak to the general case, but I have to give the show that the grain elevator did get turned into condos [1]. [1] http://www.silopoint.com/ http://www.silopoint.com/
- 5y ago

gorwell 5y ago

Change my mind: "slashdotted" > "hugged to death"

astrange 5y ago

> And a worker-owned co-op coffeeshop that President Obama visited. They're just exploiting the hard work of the coffee bushes. (And their customers since the product is addictive.)