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> The real failure is to not have dealt with the Syrian crisis Most migrants weren't Syrians, btw. But more importantly, I wish to remind you that when this ma

> The real failure is to not have dealt with the Syrian crisis Most migrants weren't Syrians, btw. But more importantly, I wish to remind you that when this mass migration was inflicted on Europe, the Left was very much in favor of this shitshow. There was no "dealing with the Syrian crisis" then (whatever anyone means by that). Nor was there any acknowledgement that the majority of migrants weren't fleeing Syrians. Syrians should have been helped on the ground in Syria, but only a few states seemed to promote that approach (Poland comes to mind). All of this should suggest that the mass migration was weaponized.

pjc50 5y ago
> acknowledgement that the majority of migrants weren't fleeing Syrians Which migrants? Where are they from in Hungary, then? > should suggest that the mass migration was weaponized By whom? For what purpose? > the Left was very much in favor of this shitshow The left (such as this can be described as a homogenous bloc!) was not in favour of the collapse of Syria, although they generally were against just repeating the mistakes of Iraq there. Without the attack on Iraq the collapse of Syria might not have happened, after all - it released a huge amount of arms stockpiles into the region which were taken up by ISIS.
- pseudo0 5y ago
  Syrians were under 30% of the migrants arriving in Europe from 2015-2016. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_migrant_crisis#Causes_of_increased_number_of_asylum_seekers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_migrant_crisis#Causes... > The left (such as this can be described as a homogenous bloc!) was not in favour of the collapse of Syria, although they generally were against just repeating the mistakes of Iraq there. Without the attack on Iraq the collapse of Syria might not have happened, after all - it released a huge amount of arms stockpiles into the region which were taken up by ISIS. Obama authorized the CIA in 2013 to supply the Syrian rebels with money, weapons, and training [0]. A lot of those weapons ended up falling into the hands of extremist groups like AQ and ISIL, either by "vetted" militia groups getting absorbed into larger ones or weapons getting resold on the black market. That may not have ignited the conflict, but it certainly prolonged it and contributed to the humanitarian crisis in Syria. [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore

pjc50 5y ago

> acknowledgement that the majority of migrants weren't fleeing Syrians Which migrants? Where are they from in Hungary, then? > should suggest that the mass migration was weaponized By whom? For what purpose? > the Left was very much in favor of this shitshow The left (such as this can be described as a homogenous bloc!) was not in favour of the collapse of Syria, although they generally were against just repeating the mistakes of Iraq there. Without the attack on Iraq the collapse of Syria might not have happened, after all - it released a huge amount of arms stockpiles into the region which were taken up by ISIS.

pseudo0 5y ago
Syrians were under 30% of the migrants arriving in Europe from 2015-2016. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_migrant_crisis#Causes_of_increased_number_of_asylum_seekers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_migrant_crisis#Causes... > The left (such as this can be described as a homogenous bloc!) was not in favour of the collapse of Syria, although they generally were against just repeating the mistakes of Iraq there. Without the attack on Iraq the collapse of Syria might not have happened, after all - it released a huge amount of arms stockpiles into the region which were taken up by ISIS. Obama authorized the CIA in 2013 to supply the Syrian rebels with money, weapons, and training [0]. A lot of those weapons ended up falling into the hands of extremist groups like AQ and ISIL, either by "vetted" militia groups getting absorbed into larger ones or weapons getting resold on the black market. That may not have ignited the conflict, but it certainly prolonged it and contributed to the humanitarian crisis in Syria. [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore