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Don't know why your getting downed, I'm reading this the same way as you. I don't know either party, don't know the history, without that, to me, it comes acros

Don't know why your getting downed, I'm reading this the same way as you. I don't know either party, don't know the history, without that, to me, it comes across as someone trying to avoid messing up someone's life, not someone dog whistling that that's what they are dangling. So to me you're asking a fair question to people who don't see it that way, what's the context that gives you a different read?

michaelmrose 5y ago
The threat they lobbed was fanciful, unrealistic, horrible and borne of a dive into his personal life to identify a risk factor designed not as an identification of real risk but to create fear to motivate a change in behavior precisely because they had no real legal leg to stand on. This is not much different from noting someone is gay in a middle eastern country and pondering what would happen if they were outed while trying to coerce them to do what you would prefer. He created a client to consume a public API not much different than youtube-dl for sheet music which can be used to download both works under a free license or under a non free license. If the usage is infringing it is infringement by the user of the works of someone like Sony. Muse has zero call to start some shit directly with the developer because they aren't the injured party and he's not the responsible party which is why they had to stoop to nonsensical threats. This is also why the repo is still up now.
- imwillofficial 5y ago
  Thanks for the amplifying information.
- monkeycantype 5y ago
  Thanks for replying. I understand exactly the kind of threat (“gosh it would be a shame if your house burned down”) and agree that if that’s what muse are doing it’s reprehensible. I interpret it slightly differently, I asked the question because I was genuinely interested in others reading of it, rather than trying to push a perspective
  - monkeycantype 5y ago
    Seems I’m being downvoted for not interpreting the same way as others. I haven’t spouted anything offensive, I have told anyone they are wrong. I’m listening and reading other opinions carefully. HN is valuable because as long as people are genuine and open, not deliberately hurtful or malicious, it is a place where different perspectives can be examined and resolved. It is a place that has miraculously managed to facilitate free discussion without being colonised by so called free speech advocates dog whistling hate. If you're motivated enough to down vote, could you please take the time to point of the parts of the thread that lead you to believe that I am mistaken to take the muse posts at their explicit meaning rather than the implied threat. Otherwise we are conducting discussion by punishing dissent, which on a larger stage just supports the status quo of rights holder power. While I don't think this particular disagreement in itself is a hill I want to fight for, I think the way discussion happens here enlightens me and enriches my life and think its worth the effort to sustain that, and it is for that reason not out of some desire to provoke or trap, I am opening myself and my opinions up to critique, and genuinely ask what aspect of the posts you read as indicating a threat as opposed to the explicit claims. I'm not going to troll or flame back I'm just going to listen and re-read the post afterwards.

michaelmrose 5y ago

The threat they lobbed was fanciful, unrealistic, horrible and borne of a dive into his personal life to identify a risk factor designed not as an identification of real risk but to create fear to motivate a change in behavior precisely because they had no real legal leg to stand on. This is not much different from noting someone is gay in a middle eastern country and pondering what would happen if they were outed while trying to coerce them to do what you would prefer. He created a client to consume a public API not much different than youtube-dl for sheet music which can be used to download both works under a free license or under a non free license. If the usage is infringing it is infringement by the user of the works of someone like Sony. Muse has zero call to start some shit directly with the developer because they aren't the injured party and he's not the responsible party which is why they had to stoop to nonsensical threats. This is also why the repo is still up now.

imwillofficial 5y ago
Thanks for the amplifying information.
monkeycantype 5y ago
Thanks for replying. I understand exactly the kind of threat (“gosh it would be a shame if your house burned down”) and agree that if that’s what muse are doing it’s reprehensible. I interpret it slightly differently, I asked the question because I was genuinely interested in others reading of it, rather than trying to push a perspective
- monkeycantype 5y ago
  Seems I’m being downvoted for not interpreting the same way as others. I haven’t spouted anything offensive, I have told anyone they are wrong. I’m listening and reading other opinions carefully. HN is valuable because as long as people are genuine and open, not deliberately hurtful or malicious, it is a place where different perspectives can be examined and resolved. It is a place that has miraculously managed to facilitate free discussion without being colonised by so called free speech advocates dog whistling hate. If you're motivated enough to down vote, could you please take the time to point of the parts of the thread that lead you to believe that I am mistaken to take the muse posts at their explicit meaning rather than the implied threat. Otherwise we are conducting discussion by punishing dissent, which on a larger stage just supports the status quo of rights holder power. While I don't think this particular disagreement in itself is a hill I want to fight for, I think the way discussion happens here enlightens me and enriches my life and think its worth the effort to sustain that, and it is for that reason not out of some desire to provoke or trap, I am opening myself and my opinions up to critique, and genuinely ask what aspect of the posts you read as indicating a threat as opposed to the explicit claims. I'm not going to troll or flame back I'm just going to listen and re-read the post afterwards.