3 ms·

> The men who drive by want to cum as fast as possible with as little damage to their pocketbook as possible This cannot be true. Anyone can find ample porn on

by tomp 5y ago

> The men who drive by want to cum as fast as possible with as little damage to their pocketbook as possible This cannot be true. Anyone can find ample porn online (definitely enough to cum) for free. Therefore it follows that people engaging with OnlyFans and other paid-for porn services must be getting something else out of it - the illusion of an intimate (two-way) relationship, the feeling of dominance (uttering commands that the performers then act out), novelty (a bit far-fetched, there's almost certainly more free porn online than anyone can watch in a lifetime, except maybe extremely niche interests...), or something else...

throwdiscussion 5y ago
I'm not so sure that novelty is far fetched, speaking from my own experiences. My porn tastes are not fully mainstream, but not far off the path either. You can definitely hit a point where it feels like every clip that matches your interests is one you've seen before. Every actor is one you've seen before. When visiting Pornhub or similar I noticed myself going straight for the "sort by newest" option more often. And that's why I went to Chaturbate for the first time, because it's live video I've never seen before. Chaturbate and other live cam sites have their own issues...the two-way stuff can be pretty creepy in both directions. But it is always fresh video and that is its own attraction, even with what seems like an endless sea of porn available.
- burner4534 5y ago
  Glad you mentioned Chaturbate. I'm a consumer, but haven't the courage to log in or contribute yet! Whenever I get overdosed with women beating up on male sexuality, or the perpetual discussion of how awful and exploitative porn is, I know I can go to Chaturbate. I'll find lots of happy smiling people. On the couples page, young good looking couples, rightly proud of their skills, are having the sex we should all be having. Women are getting pleasured as much as men, by and large. Some might find the practices disgusting, but the practitioners don't seem to. Apart from perhaps the full-timers, I don't see much social-influencer preening. It's more spontaneous, plus preening in a bedroom setting seems less about vanity and more about getting yourself properly rogered. If we're having more and better sex, and it certainly looks like it, we probably have porn and the pill, and now chat sites to thank. Goodness, only a few decades ago we needed Alex Comfort to tell us that oral sex was alright. In particular, hope this isn't the dirty old man speaking, women (especially but not only on Chaturbate) seem to have thrown off the yoke of an imposed modesty, and seem not to be missing it much. I'm sure there are problems, and abuse, but I wish this and other hand-wringing discussions would start from the premise that if we are having more and freer sex, that's a good thing, and that men and women, despite all the problems, are made for each other.
emptysongglass 5y ago
She's my wife, please don't speculate on my (or her) honesty. The last thing sex workers need is more people mansplaining what their customers are looking for. Camsites are expensive, especially camsites catering to the one-to-one format. Per minute the rate is extremely high and most men can't afford it so they take what they can get. The ones who pay for longer shows often have both specific fetishes not easily catered to and disposable income exceeding what most clients come prepared to spend. Or else the peak experience gets them cumming earlier than they expected and their guilt and shame drives them to leave as soon as they finish.
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > She's my wife, please don't speculate on my (or her) honesty Arguing that the facts seem to contradict your (or your wife’s) interpretation (an argument I am observing, not endorsing) of the situation is not questioning either of your honesty. People can draw false conclusions without lying.

by tomp 5y ago

throwdiscussion 5y ago

I'm not so sure that novelty is far fetched, speaking from my own experiences. My porn tastes are not fully mainstream, but not far off the path either. You can definitely hit a point where it feels like every clip that matches your interests is one you've seen before. Every actor is one you've seen before. When visiting Pornhub or similar I noticed myself going straight for the "sort by newest" option more often. And that's why I went to Chaturbate for the first time, because it's live video I've never seen before. Chaturbate and other live cam sites have their own issues...the two-way stuff can be pretty creepy in both directions. But it is always fresh video and that is its own attraction, even with what seems like an endless sea of porn available.

burner4534 5y ago
Glad you mentioned Chaturbate. I'm a consumer, but haven't the courage to log in or contribute yet! Whenever I get overdosed with women beating up on male sexuality, or the perpetual discussion of how awful and exploitative porn is, I know I can go to Chaturbate. I'll find lots of happy smiling people. On the couples page, young good looking couples, rightly proud of their skills, are having the sex we should all be having. Women are getting pleasured as much as men, by and large. Some might find the practices disgusting, but the practitioners don't seem to. Apart from perhaps the full-timers, I don't see much social-influencer preening. It's more spontaneous, plus preening in a bedroom setting seems less about vanity and more about getting yourself properly rogered. If we're having more and better sex, and it certainly looks like it, we probably have porn and the pill, and now chat sites to thank. Goodness, only a few decades ago we needed Alex Comfort to tell us that oral sex was alright. In particular, hope this isn't the dirty old man speaking, women (especially but not only on Chaturbate) seem to have thrown off the yoke of an imposed modesty, and seem not to be missing it much. I'm sure there are problems, and abuse, but I wish this and other hand-wringing discussions would start from the premise that if we are having more and freer sex, that's a good thing, and that men and women, despite all the problems, are made for each other.

emptysongglass 5y ago

She's my wife, please don't speculate on my (or her) honesty. The last thing sex workers need is more people mansplaining what their customers are looking for. Camsites are expensive, especially camsites catering to the one-to-one format. Per minute the rate is extremely high and most men can't afford it so they take what they can get. The ones who pay for longer shows often have both specific fetishes not easily catered to and disposable income exceeding what most clients come prepared to spend. Or else the peak experience gets them cumming earlier than they expected and their guilt and shame drives them to leave as soon as they finish.

dragonwriter 5y ago
> She's my wife, please don't speculate on my (or her) honesty Arguing that the facts seem to contradict your (or your wife’s) interpretation (an argument I am observing, not endorsing) of the situation is not questioning either of your honesty. People can draw false conclusions without lying.