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Neither of them was democratic as in liberal, free press, human rights etc etc. Iran afaik was a full blown dictatorship before the islamic revolution (it's sti
by joelbluminator 5y ago
Neither of them was democratic as in liberal, free press, human rights etc etc. Iran afaik was a full blown dictatorship before the islamic revolution (it's still a dictatorship, but different), Lebanon's history is more complicated but I stand by my view that it was never a liberal democracy, definitely not in the last 40 years.
- andrepd 5y ago>Iran afaik was a full blown dictatorship before the islamic revolution Yes, but he was talking about before that wasn't he? Iran was a democracy (flawed, but still) before the US–UK alliance overthrew the parliamentary system and installed a puppet dictator, to keep stealing their oil.
- joelbluminator 5y agoI'm no expert on the history of Iran, but no, it doesn't seem it ever was (Most countries in the region ever were or are one now). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Imperial_State_of_Iran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Imperial_S... "The reign of Reza Shah was totalitarian and dictatorial at a time when totalitarian governments and dictatorships were common in the Middle East and the world[8] and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights was some years in the future."
- rjsw 5y agoIt was more of a democracy before the 1953 coup [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9ta...
- joelbluminator 5y agoOK, it was more of a democracy at that time I agree. That was 70 years ago.
- sudosysgen 5y agoAgain, you've got the wrong time period.
- andrepd 5y agoFor the 3rd time, I'm talking about the regime that was overthrown to put in the Shah Reza Pahlavi...
- joelbluminator 5y agoYou could be right, I will read up on that. But again, you are pointing to a very specific point in history, that was an exception to the rule.