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> cost crowdfund > maintenance torrent > durability torrent > who should pay for all of it crowdfund. Not even being flippant, any objections? Strikes m

> cost crowdfund > maintenance torrent > durability torrent > who should pay for all of it crowdfund. Not even being flippant, any objections? Strikes me as perfectly straightforward.

tablespoon 5y ago
> Not even being flippant, any objections? Strikes me as perfectly straightforward. If you can come up with a "solution" in a drive-by comment after a minute's thought, your "solution" probably isn't as good as you think it is. It was probably already thought up and rejected by someone who spent much more than a minute thinking about the problem. I'll close with a question: have you ever actually tried download old torrents of stuff that doesn't have mainstream popularity?
- samatman 5y ago
  Why would that happen to a legal torrent of interest to a scholarly community? Are we going to run out of Bronte scholars? Will they not have computers and an Internet connection?
  - tablespoon 5y ago
    It might be helpful for you to try to think of reasons why your idea is wrong, rather than reasons why it is right. How many crowdfunding projects have failed to deliver? Do people who actually do archiving consider torrents to be a durable storage medium, like you seem to think? Who's responsibility would it be to keep a (perhaps) 100GB+ torrent seeded? Are you just assuming "someone else"? What do you think the longevity of the BitTorrent protocol will be? What's the chance it will be progressively harder to use over time (e.g. https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/6246151319715840 https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/6246151319715840, https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2021/04/15/built-in-ftp-implementation-to-be-removed-in-firefox-90/ https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2021/04/15/built-in-ftp-impl...)? How tech savvy to do think Bronte scholars are? How many Bronte do you think there are? Do you think they're just doing Bronte scholarship all the time?
    - BizarroLand 5y ago
      Once again, appeals to ignorance, hasty generalizations, false dichotomies and slippery slopes. All logical fallacies. Convincing yourself that the task is impossible and doomed to fail does not make it impossible and doomed to fail.
- aaron695 5y ago
  What legal torrents have disappeared? I'm not sure this is true. I'll give you a possible answer, ISIS footage perhaps. University's won't support those archives. But I'd have to check. Hosting a Bronte archive is trivial in general. Not sure why literature people think it's a good idea though. They can't do articles like this then, they become redundant when anyone can google it. Also pretty boring killing off reading rooms. But I'd be interested in what legal torrents you've seen disappear?
  - hcs 5y ago
    Fortunately the files can still be found, but the torrent for the official release of this small EP died out: http://web.archive.org/web/20091203224849/http://polytroncorporation.com/?p=732 http://web.archive.org/web/20091203224849/http://polytroncor... Probably also not of interest to universities, but it was a popular game.
    - aaron695 5y ago
      That is a good example, thanks. 6955 have other albums on the torrents, but none containing One Two Three.
- BizarroLand 5y ago
  That's a logical fallacy. Ad Hominem attacks and appeals to ignorance do not mean you have made a good argument. For instance, archive.org. Post anything, host anything, curated selections of exabytes of data from all over the world (although primarily English speaking countries). The time to digitize the articles is precious and may cost a bit, but hosting it is simple and practically free when compared to the cost/weight of archive.org.
yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
Torrents need seeds; it fixes distribution, not durability.

> cost crowdfund > maintenance torrent > durability torrent > who should pay for all of it crowdfund. Not even being flippant, any objections? Strikes me as perfectly straightforward.

tablespoon 5y ago

> Not even being flippant, any objections? Strikes me as perfectly straightforward. If you can come up with a "solution" in a drive-by comment after a minute's thought, your "solution" probably isn't as good as you think it is. It was probably already thought up and rejected by someone who spent much more than a minute thinking about the problem. I'll close with a question: have you ever actually tried download old torrents of stuff that doesn't have mainstream popularity?

samatman 5y ago
Why would that happen to a legal torrent of interest to a scholarly community? Are we going to run out of Bronte scholars? Will they not have computers and an Internet connection?
- tablespoon 5y ago
  It might be helpful for you to try to think of reasons why your idea is wrong, rather than reasons why it is right. How many crowdfunding projects have failed to deliver? Do people who actually do archiving consider torrents to be a durable storage medium, like you seem to think? Who's responsibility would it be to keep a (perhaps) 100GB+ torrent seeded? Are you just assuming "someone else"? What do you think the longevity of the BitTorrent protocol will be? What's the chance it will be progressively harder to use over time (e.g. https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/6246151319715840 https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/6246151319715840, https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2021/04/15/built-in-ftp-implementation-to-be-removed-in-firefox-90/ https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2021/04/15/built-in-ftp-impl...)? How tech savvy to do think Bronte scholars are? How many Bronte do you think there are? Do you think they're just doing Bronte scholarship all the time?
  - BizarroLand 5y ago
    Once again, appeals to ignorance, hasty generalizations, false dichotomies and slippery slopes. All logical fallacies. Convincing yourself that the task is impossible and doomed to fail does not make it impossible and doomed to fail.
aaron695 5y ago
What legal torrents have disappeared? I'm not sure this is true. I'll give you a possible answer, ISIS footage perhaps. University's won't support those archives. But I'd have to check. Hosting a Bronte archive is trivial in general. Not sure why literature people think it's a good idea though. They can't do articles like this then, they become redundant when anyone can google it. Also pretty boring killing off reading rooms. But I'd be interested in what legal torrents you've seen disappear?
- hcs 5y ago
  Fortunately the files can still be found, but the torrent for the official release of this small EP died out: http://web.archive.org/web/20091203224849/http://polytroncorporation.com/?p=732 http://web.archive.org/web/20091203224849/http://polytroncor... Probably also not of interest to universities, but it was a popular game.
  - aaron695 5y ago
    That is a good example, thanks. 6955 have other albums on the torrents, but none containing One Two Three.
BizarroLand 5y ago
That's a logical fallacy. Ad Hominem attacks and appeals to ignorance do not mean you have made a good argument. For instance, archive.org. Post anything, host anything, curated selections of exabytes of data from all over the world (although primarily English speaking countries). The time to digitize the articles is precious and may cost a bit, but hosting it is simple and practically free when compared to the cost/weight of archive.org.

yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago

Torrents need seeds; it fixes distribution, not durability.