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Author's a fanboy. The entire body states that feature parity was achieved with competing operating systems. The title almost sounds like SHA256 was broken whi

Author's a fanboy. The entire body states that feature parity was achieved with competing operating systems. The title almost sounds like SHA256 was broken while Lion was written and everyone else is vulnerable.

thirsteh 15y ago
It's a funny thing, this "Apple effect" -- and, love it or hate it, you have to have a little bit of respect for it. Shows how much brand matters. Not a lot of companies can sell something like ASLR and basic application restrictions this well.
- danieldk 15y ago
  Apple has better marketing, but it is also more consumer-driven than some of the competition. E.g. compare application sandboxing with the pain that is SELinux (for the average desktop user). In some other communities it's not well-understood that it's not just about feature checkboxing. It's about shaping features in such a manner that they are trivial to use. I do realize that to Apple-dislikers I am well under the spell of the reality distortion field ;).
  - shriphani 15y ago
    Oh my rant was not directed at Apple. OS X is the largest deployed unix client and brings a lot of stuff that powerusers used to normal consumers and making the leap from something like rsync -> time machine is very impressive. It is just that people who use a computer for nothing more than generic stuff like browsing / word-processing feel this need to defend their OS choice (while potentially using the exact applications which they used on their previous platform) with articles like this. Soon ASLR will become "the killer feature" and Apple will be declared the first to invent it and the Linux/Win fanboys will be pissed. This of course is the circle of life in the tech industry. One just needs to stand at a distance and enjoy.
- zemanel 15y ago
  [Most] consumers love Apple because [most] Apple products make them happy. Marketing doesn't make one happy.
halostatue 15y ago
I read the article with the same skepticism, but it's worth noting the researchers named: Charlie Miller and Dino Dai Zovi. They have never been afraid of criticizing or pwning Apple (IIRC, Miller won pwn2own twice). The article is typical El Reg, but the researchers aren't uncritically gushing.
AlexC04 15y ago
The title sounds a lot like the sort of press release republishing that goes on in games reviews. Remember when XP came out? (oh god, did I just age myself) That was also chock-a-block full of press release style articles in the news about how impenetrable it was. Mac is "king of security" only in the sense that it covers about 10% of the market and people aren't writing viruses for it. Oh well... really "punchy" headline though got me to click.
- jbrechtel 15y ago
  "Remember when XP came out? (oh god, did I just age myself) " No, but unfortunately you aged me by implying that remembering that might age you.

thirsteh 15y ago

It's a funny thing, this "Apple effect" -- and, love it or hate it, you have to have a little bit of respect for it. Shows how much brand matters. Not a lot of companies can sell something like ASLR and basic application restrictions this well.

danieldk 15y ago
Apple has better marketing, but it is also more consumer-driven than some of the competition. E.g. compare application sandboxing with the pain that is SELinux (for the average desktop user). In some other communities it's not well-understood that it's not just about feature checkboxing. It's about shaping features in such a manner that they are trivial to use. I do realize that to Apple-dislikers I am well under the spell of the reality distortion field ;).
- shriphani 15y ago
  Oh my rant was not directed at Apple. OS X is the largest deployed unix client and brings a lot of stuff that powerusers used to normal consumers and making the leap from something like rsync -> time machine is very impressive. It is just that people who use a computer for nothing more than generic stuff like browsing / word-processing feel this need to defend their OS choice (while potentially using the exact applications which they used on their previous platform) with articles like this. Soon ASLR will become "the killer feature" and Apple will be declared the first to invent it and the Linux/Win fanboys will be pissed. This of course is the circle of life in the tech industry. One just needs to stand at a distance and enjoy.
zemanel 15y ago
[Most] consumers love Apple because [most] Apple products make them happy. Marketing doesn't make one happy.

halostatue 15y ago

I read the article with the same skepticism, but it's worth noting the researchers named: Charlie Miller and Dino Dai Zovi. They have never been afraid of criticizing or pwning Apple (IIRC, Miller won pwn2own twice). The article is typical El Reg, but the researchers aren't uncritically gushing.

AlexC04 15y ago

The title sounds a lot like the sort of press release republishing that goes on in games reviews. Remember when XP came out? (oh god, did I just age myself) That was also chock-a-block full of press release style articles in the news about how impenetrable it was. Mac is "king of security" only in the sense that it covers about 10% of the market and people aren't writing viruses for it. Oh well... really "punchy" headline though got me to click.

jbrechtel 15y ago
"Remember when XP came out? (oh god, did I just age myself) " No, but unfortunately you aged me by implying that remembering that might age you.