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> In my school in California it was all windows in the 1990's and 2000's. Yeah, it was that way even before that. Microsoft and Apple got into a "donation war

> In my school in California it was all windows in the 1990's and 2000's. Yeah, it was that way even before that. Microsoft and Apple got into a "donation war" tryin'a get their corporate garbage into schools back when I was a kid. Looks like Microsoft largely won that war. Hard to fight multiple generations deep corporate brainwashing.

TaylorAlexander 5y ago
Ah yes, the efficiency of the free market. Where companies with deep pockets get kids hooked on their product early so they can abuse them for the rest of their lives. In these cases I think administrative oversight of broad and long term benefits to society is important, rather than the more narrow decision of "this choice will benefit next year's budget". Early offers by Microsoft were in a way a trap that kept schools and students paying for decades.
- blfr 5y ago
  Ah yes, the efficiency of the free market. Schools in California are government-run, zoned, and compulsory. A complete opposite of the free market.
  - Clubber 5y ago
    That purchased operating systems created by the free market.
  - TaylorAlexander 5y ago
    I suppose I specifically mean free-market thinking applied to government services. This would be a symptom of neoliberalism. [1] Allowing discounts from private corporations to influence government policy, instead of looking at what would be best from a broader perspective. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism
idiotsecant 5y ago
>tryin'a
amatecha 5y ago
Eh, I mean, I grew up with Macs at home and school and have definitely seen the light of free/libre software. That said, it took a long time, and it was also largely because I have always been quite conscious of privacy (and to a lesser degree, security). It is still indeed an uphill battle for all the "I have nothing to hide" average people who just act like you're paranoid for even bringing up the subject of privacy.

TaylorAlexander 5y ago

Ah yes, the efficiency of the free market. Where companies with deep pockets get kids hooked on their product early so they can abuse them for the rest of their lives. In these cases I think administrative oversight of broad and long term benefits to society is important, rather than the more narrow decision of "this choice will benefit next year's budget". Early offers by Microsoft were in a way a trap that kept schools and students paying for decades.

blfr 5y ago
Ah yes, the efficiency of the free market. Schools in California are government-run, zoned, and compulsory. A complete opposite of the free market.
- Clubber 5y ago
  That purchased operating systems created by the free market.
- TaylorAlexander 5y ago
  I suppose I specifically mean free-market thinking applied to government services. This would be a symptom of neoliberalism. [1] Allowing discounts from private corporations to influence government policy, instead of looking at what would be best from a broader perspective. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

idiotsecant 5y ago

>tryin'a

amatecha 5y ago

Eh, I mean, I grew up with Macs at home and school and have definitely seen the light of free/libre software. That said, it took a long time, and it was also largely because I have always been quite conscious of privacy (and to a lesser degree, security). It is still indeed an uphill battle for all the "I have nothing to hide" average people who just act like you're paranoid for even bringing up the subject of privacy.