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> Apple is seems almost as bad too. There's recommendations that I don't want. The main AppleTV UI doesn’t have any recommendations for streaming apps you don’
by djrogers 5y ago
> Apple is seems almost as bad too. There's recommendations that I don't want.
The main AppleTV UI doesn’t have any recommendations for streaming apps you don’t own - the only thing that’s even close are when you highlight one of the apps in the top bar.
- ocdtrekkie 5y agoAs an iOS user, there's a couple weird ones: Apple prohibits apps from putting ads in notifications, but sends a notification ad for every new Apple TV+ show. "Rules for thee, but not for me"
- devoutsalsa 5y agoThe good ol' "do as I say & not as I do" routine.
- marcellus23 5y agoTo be honest, Apple never enforces that rule on third parties anyway.
- kart23 5y agoThose are so annoying. Thankfully you can turn the notifications off.
- reaperducer 5y agoFor those of you not on iOS, here's what one of those notification spams from Apple looks like: https://twitter.com/Reaperducer/status/1393380938642563072 https://twitter.com/Reaperducer/status/1393380938642563072 See also: Ads for Apple Music, Apple Arcade, and Apple's fitness thing at the top of the Settings app. https://twitter.com/Reaperducer/status/1390696646854397955 https://twitter.com/Reaperducer/status/1390696646854397955 Fake notification alerts in the App Store to get you to tap on the Apple Arcade button to show you a subscription ad. Spam from Apple that I can't seem to stop receiving, even though I'm unsubscribed from every Apple list. I've gone as far as to contact AppleCare about it. I spent an hour on the phone with someone at AppleCare who couldn't explain why I keep getting Apple Arcade spam in my e-mail. https://twitter.com/Reaperducer/status/1394843930932523015 https://twitter.com/Reaperducer/status/1394843930932523015
- abacadaba 5y ago!$#!#@ just when i'm just about ready to pull the trigger and switch to iOS you tell me this.. save us pinephone
- wlesieutre 5y agoApple no longer prohibits ads in notifications as of March last year https://9to5mac.com/2020/03/04/apple-now-allows-push-notification-advertising-updates-dating-app-review-guidelines-and-more/ https://9to5mac.com/2020/03/04/apple-now-allows-push-notific... Good way to get your notification privileges revoked though. I wish Apple would add granular notification categories within apps so that you could approve particular types of notifications while denying others. A quick google says Android 8 did this in 2017. Apple's policy on this is to require in-app configuration to opt out of marketing messages, rather than a way to configure it through the OS.
- RandallBrown 5y agoApple is adding something like what you want in iOS 15. https://openback.com/blog/wwdc-2021-ios-15-push-notification/ https://openback.com/blog/wwdc-2021-ios-15-push-notification...
- wlesieutre 5y agoSort of like what I want, but relies of developers to decide what is passive/active/time-sensitive/critical, and instead of being able to fix it the only recourse is to say "no notifications." I do see what Apple is going for, in that these predefined categories let you automate notification handling with Focus modes, but I have a feeling a lot of apps will have an inflated opinion of how important "new episodes of ____ are available" is to me.
- pseudalopex 5y agoMany apps send marketing notifications anyway. And there seems to be no way to report it.
- wlesieutre 5y agoNot sure what you mean by "send marketing notifications anyway," since they are allowed to do that now. Are you saying they do it after you opt-out of the marketing notifications in-app?
- sdflhasjd 5y agoThat is certainly better than the Shield, which is giving me recommendations for stuff I don't subscribe to. As far as I understand though, is that it will show recommendations provided by installed apps. I do have Prime, and I still don't really want recommendations without explicitly asking for it.
- afavour 5y agoIf I recall you can disable this on a per-app basis.
- siegecraft 5y agoThis is different from the recommendation "channels" that each app can provide. You can choose whether or not each one shows up on the home screen, re-order them, and so on. This is a giant banner at the top of the home page that shows ads from random streaming services that you may or may not subscribe to or have installed.
- nyjah 5y agoThe appleTV app might do that, but I use the AppleTV and just avoid the appleTV app and it doesn't interfere with anything. If I had an ad appear one day I'd throw the whole thing away.
- js2 5y agoFWIW, I own both a Shield Pro and an Apple TV. I use my Apple TV most of the time. I find it a much nicer interface. The only time I use the Shield is with Plex for watching Blu-rays that I've ripped because it supports pass-through of Dolby TrueHD and the Apple TV does not.
- ssimpson 5y agoYoutube app update and now has a huge banner ad at the top when you start it up. Very annoying!
- aaronbrethorst 5y agoThis is Apple's fault how?
- swiley 5y agoPushing people to use "apps" instead of the web where poor behavior just makes your own product crappier.
- Despegar 5y agoWebsites are unregulated. iOS apps have to abide by Apple's terms. This is exactly why developers are mad about any number of things: paying Apple's commission, but also complying with their privacy dictates.
- swiley 5y agoApparently Apple's terms aren't that great for some users.
- mumblemumble 5y agoI've noticed, for example, that they seem to be particularly upsetting to Android users.
- babypuncher 5y agoHow so?
- howinteresting 5y agoAs a really simple example, the App Store does not have a torrent remote app while the Play Store and F-Droid have them.
- true_religion 5y agoIt does however have a lot of space dedicated to advertising shows in paid apps that you may not own inside of the AppleTV app itself which you use to track your own owned and subscribed content.
- metasaval 5y agoThe first thing I did when I got my ATV4K was change the TV button to go to the home screen instead of the TV app and have not used the app for anything. A far cry from ads being on the home screen itself.
- bound008 5y agoJust to clarify. The Apple TV (tvOS) interface gives extra functionality to apps on the top row of the launcher. (you have full control over ordering the apps). This functionality allows the apps to show whatever preview content they want per the SDK. Some show continue watching, and then suggestions, others show nothing. But you are in charge of what apps are on the top row.
- tokamak-teapot 5y agoThanks. I didn’t know why I was somehow immune to the Apple TV+ advertising and why I just saw Spotify recommendations.
- thewebcount 5y agoAlso, you can change the setting fore the TV.app so the large banner on the home screen only shows television shows and movies you have added to "Up Next". Go to "Settings" > "Apps" > "TV" and change the "Top Shelf" setting to "Up Next" instead of "What To Watch".
- srswtf123 5y agoThis tip is very much appreciated, thank you
- jader201 5y agoMy “Up Next”, which is Apple’s integration to show shows you’ve been watching when the Apple TV app is selected in the top bar, is polluted constantly with MLB games that I’ve not figured out how to disable. Sometimes I have to skip 3 or 4 games in the bar to find a show I watched yesterday. And I never watch MLB games nor do I have the app installed (clicking the games brings me to install the MLB app).
- crooked-v 5y agoSettings -> Apps -> TV, turn off the sports recommendations in there. Those are off by default, so you must have turned them on at some point.
- jader201 5y agoYeah, I’ve done that plus one other remotely related setting. Doesn’t help. E.g. “Show sports scores” is off, “Games in Up Next” is off, and “Exciting Games” is off.
- thewebcount 5y agoFWIW, I have all those things on and have never seen anything sports-related. I have changed the settings for the TV app to only show what's in "Up Next" instead of "What to Watch", though. Maybe that's the difference?