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Not to say I don’t believe that China is actively attacking networks and services (if they don’t then they’re lagging behind and it’s embarassing), but I can un

by baby 5y ago

Not to say I don’t believe that China is actively attacking networks and services (if they don’t then they’re lagging behind and it’s embarassing), but I can understand the skepticism of grand claims when the latest was that tiktok was impacting national security.

vxNsr 5y ago
If you don’t believe Tiktok is a national security threat you are hopelessly naive. MyFitnessPal, Strava, etc are threats to national security and they’re US based, but you think that Tiktok isn’t because someone you don’t like said it is? That’s playground logic.
- tablespoon 5y ago
  > If you don’t believe Tiktok is a national security threat you are hopelessly naive. Yeah, it's pretty much a bomb waiting to be used. It might not have been used yet, but that's no reason to claim it's harmless and sleep next to it. Though, Facebook and Twitter are not much better, and only somewhat less exploitable by the same adversary (there's capitalism for you).
- chalst 5y ago
  Given the goals of the US, anything that weakens US hegemony can be regarded as a national security threat. Naturally, any internationally successful social media technology not under the control of US corporations counts. If you are not American, though, the TikTok drama has been one of the more darkly amusing spectacles.
  - partiallypro 5y ago
    The US isn't the only country that has claimed TikTok is a national security threat though.
  - vxNsr 5y ago
    India disagrees with you but ok.
godelski 5y ago
> when the latest was that tiktok was impacting national security. Wait, it wasn't? I'm not sure why this is a controversial opinion. Social media has often been linked to information leakage. Geo tagging of photos was part of the proof that was used to show that Russia invaded Crimea. Similarly US soldiers have had their locations revealed when posting on Facebook/Twitter/Instagram. In fact if you're over seas and talking to your partner back home they generally have another soldier listening to the conversation. Given all this why is it surprising that a large social media platform that focuses on videos (which reveal more info), grabs a lot of data, and is connected to the US's largest geopolitical adversary is considered a threat?

by baby 5y ago

vxNsr 5y ago

If you don’t believe Tiktok is a national security threat you are hopelessly naive. MyFitnessPal, Strava, etc are threats to national security and they’re US based, but you think that Tiktok isn’t because someone you don’t like said it is? That’s playground logic.

tablespoon 5y ago
> If you don’t believe Tiktok is a national security threat you are hopelessly naive. Yeah, it's pretty much a bomb waiting to be used. It might not have been used yet, but that's no reason to claim it's harmless and sleep next to it. Though, Facebook and Twitter are not much better, and only somewhat less exploitable by the same adversary (there's capitalism for you).
chalst 5y ago
Given the goals of the US, anything that weakens US hegemony can be regarded as a national security threat. Naturally, any internationally successful social media technology not under the control of US corporations counts. If you are not American, though, the TikTok drama has been one of the more darkly amusing spectacles.
- partiallypro 5y ago
  The US isn't the only country that has claimed TikTok is a national security threat though.
- vxNsr 5y ago
  India disagrees with you but ok.

godelski 5y ago

> when the latest was that tiktok was impacting national security. Wait, it wasn't? I'm not sure why this is a controversial opinion. Social media has often been linked to information leakage. Geo tagging of photos was part of the proof that was used to show that Russia invaded Crimea. Similarly US soldiers have had their locations revealed when posting on Facebook/Twitter/Instagram. In fact if you're over seas and talking to your partner back home they generally have another soldier listening to the conversation. Given all this why is it surprising that a large social media platform that focuses on videos (which reveal more info), grabs a lot of data, and is connected to the US's largest geopolitical adversary is considered a threat?