Except they still lie constantly and clearly that message hasn't sunk in if HN commenters such as yourself still defend them. The days of non-partisan, non-clic

Except they still lie constantly and clearly that message hasn't sunk in if HN commenters such as yourself still defend them. The days of non-partisan, non-clickbait and thoroughly researched journalism is long over, yet many still don't hold them to the same standards they would to any blog. It causes "harm" to call out their lies? Get real, they've fanned the flames for riots and other political violence for years now and that's far more harmful than calling them terrible for doing so.