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There's no way to stop shit like this from happening at scale if we keep making exceptions for law enforcement and international espionage Until people stop ac
by advael 5y ago
There's no way to stop shit like this from happening at scale if we keep making exceptions for law enforcement and international espionage
Until people stop accepting busting drug dealers by tapping their phones, they're going to keep getting journalists and other random people having their phones tapped too. The hard line we need to take is that there is no legitimate use of this capability
- mihaaly 5y agoI usually have an aversion to these clear cut principles and no exceptions here, in controlled situations we need tools to protect society, firarms are bad, arresting people should be avoided, track someone is a violation of privacy, but we need strongly controlled cases where we use it. Also forbidding it will not stop suveillance when it brings benefit to some.
- advael 5y agoSociety managed to not collapse for quite a long time without the ability to spy on every aspect of someone's life. Does the capability existing suddenly make it necessary? I don't buy this argument at all
- cwkoss 5y agoFundraising for the development of surveillance products would be much more challenging if there was no legal use for it. Right now, companies are encouraged to build whatever they think LEO and counter-terrorism would find useful, and people get shocked when they realize its also being sold to authoritarian third-world governments to use against political activists.