> you seem to be working from an assumption that brains are not sufficient hardware to run consciousness on I did not make such a statement. I made the point t

> you seem to be working from an assumption that brains are not sufficient hardware to run consciousness on I did not make such a statement. I made the point that computers certainly are not. Therefore you cannot reduce consciousness to information processing. For many reasons, the most important one is that "information processing" can be used to describe the flow of water in pipes, so if you say that is sufficient to produce consciousness then you must say that the sewage system is conscious.