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Surely one can conceive of effective ways to limit to damage the police can do to people short of abolishing the police. For example, disarm the police and they
by pueblito 5y ago
Surely one can conceive of effective ways to limit to damage the police can do to people short of abolishing the police. For example, disarm the police and they can’t shoot you.
- ipaddr 5y agoYou still are paying the same under your plan. You abolish them and then move that money/power into some other entity like social services until the power / money corrupt them.
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- pjc50 5y agoWell, yes, that's kind of my point; strawmanning all sorts of scenarios distracts from taking a look at what's actually happening and creating meaningful checks and balances.
- TheFalun 5y agoOr just have public audits of police forces and provide accountability and transparency into cases as necessary. In addition good policing should be rewarded with significant bonuses. Incentivizing good behavior will always Trump criticizing "bad" (often never defined) behavior.
- Smeevy 5y agoI personally would rather see disciplinary action akin to what's done in the military. Not that that isn't without its issues, but the machinery that makes it work is larger and more independent from the people being disciplined than what you get at the state and local law enforcement level.
- TheFalun 5y agoRight now you have a damned if you do damned if you don't situation where police get 0 credit for saving thousands if not more lives, yet the one time they make a mistake their are immediately put on the chopping block. Recognizing what policing should look like and idealizing that would go a long way.
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- 8note 5y agoAs long as it's legal for them to kill you because they feel like it, not having a gun doesn't change that. Their knees are just as deadly, but I don't think taking away officers knees is a good next step after their guns