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I sold my soul to the company store. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_scrip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_scrip There was good reason to do away

I sold my soul to the company store. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_scrip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_scrip There was good reason to do away with such concepts.

JumpCrisscross 5y ago
> the company store Night and day. Company doesn’t own the home. Company doesn’t own the stores you shop at.
- sandworm101 5y ago
  Not entirely different. Any non-dollar payment takes they employee's purchasing power out of the free market. Tying one's housing options to one's employment opens the door to similar abuses as company stores. Does a fired employee loose thier housing?
  - JumpCrisscross 5y ago
    > Any non-dollar payment takes they employee's purchasing power out of the free market Where is the non-dollar payment? The law says landlords must rent certain units to people who work locally. The company is never involved except in verifying employment. If the employee wants, they can commute through the pass to Victor, Idaho and earn exactly what they were earning before.
    - sandworm101 5y ago
      The payment is the cheaper housing options due to employeers needing to fill units with local workers. The evil is that, once so housed, the employee is no longer free to take non-local work. Are these people free to quit and start a remote-work job?
      - JumpCrisscross 5y ago
        > Are these people free to quit and start a remote-work job? Got it. I see what you mean. No, they are not. Practically speaking, these jobs are not ones that can be done remotely. (But maybe another could.) More practically, absent these measures, those workers are commuting in.
    - effingwewt 5y ago
      In California we have a notoriously evil company called Derrel's Mini Storage. They have some of the highest employee churn, such that they have permanent now hiring signs at all locations - which are explodingat the moment due to the many people moving out of California - almost all are completely full and we have I believe more than 10 just here. They hire teams of two and force the men to do the manual labor and the women to do the deskwork. They force the team to work and live on site. As in, to work there yoy must reside there. They make this sound like a bonus - it's not. Now, when you inevitably decide to leave you must first find alternative living situation, and another job to pay for it while working extremely long hours at this place (sometimes 7 days a week open to close if they cant hire a relief team- and they only hire teams). This is beyond evil. When I was about 19 I worked on a rock quarry in Comstock, Texas. We had to live on-site at the 'wetback shack' (owner's words, and most of the employees were indeed illegals driven over from Acuna, Mexico). This was because he wanted to start work at 4am and this ensured everyone would show up- not his only reason however. We made minimum wage busting and palletizing rock, even if we operated heavy machinery wage didnt change. They charged us $3 per soda or water at the swear to God it literally was Company Store. We also, we found out when we got our 1st check, were charged rent to stay in the shack. I think at what 3.30/hr (one water per hour!) damn near nothing was left. We, my friends and I who had family in Del Rio, Tx, could leave, and we did. The poor bastards who worked harder than anyone and were generally shit on (the illegals) they couldn't leave. The people who were from Comstock outskirts where there were no other jobs or places to rent? They stayed. This was in 1999. Tying living in any way with work is disgusting and not in any way shape or form altruistic.
- Red_Leaves_Flyy 5y ago
  The company is the “stock market” class.
- 29083011397778 5y ago
  Directly from the article, some business owners are doing better than others because they house [some to a majority of] their workforce. Sure, you're missing the company owning the church, but fewer Americans are religious now. The employer also doesn't own all the local stores, but "It's not a company town because the stores are owned by people that all know each other (due to it being a small town), instead of one individual" is a little too close to be comfortable to me.

I sold my soul to the company store. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_scrip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_scrip There was good reason to do away with such concepts.

JumpCrisscross 5y ago

> the company store Night and day. Company doesn’t own the home. Company doesn’t own the stores you shop at.

sandworm101 5y ago
Not entirely different. Any non-dollar payment takes they employee's purchasing power out of the free market. Tying one's housing options to one's employment opens the door to similar abuses as company stores. Does a fired employee loose thier housing?
- JumpCrisscross 5y ago
  > Any non-dollar payment takes they employee's purchasing power out of the free market Where is the non-dollar payment? The law says landlords must rent certain units to people who work locally. The company is never involved except in verifying employment. If the employee wants, they can commute through the pass to Victor, Idaho and earn exactly what they were earning before.
  - sandworm101 5y ago
    The payment is the cheaper housing options due to employeers needing to fill units with local workers. The evil is that, once so housed, the employee is no longer free to take non-local work. Are these people free to quit and start a remote-work job?
    - JumpCrisscross 5y ago
      > Are these people free to quit and start a remote-work job? Got it. I see what you mean. No, they are not. Practically speaking, these jobs are not ones that can be done remotely. (But maybe another could.) More practically, absent these measures, those workers are commuting in.
  - effingwewt 5y ago
    In California we have a notoriously evil company called Derrel's Mini Storage. They have some of the highest employee churn, such that they have permanent now hiring signs at all locations - which are explodingat the moment due to the many people moving out of California - almost all are completely full and we have I believe more than 10 just here. They hire teams of two and force the men to do the manual labor and the women to do the deskwork. They force the team to work and live on site. As in, to work there yoy must reside there. They make this sound like a bonus - it's not. Now, when you inevitably decide to leave you must first find alternative living situation, and another job to pay for it while working extremely long hours at this place (sometimes 7 days a week open to close if they cant hire a relief team- and they only hire teams). This is beyond evil. When I was about 19 I worked on a rock quarry in Comstock, Texas. We had to live on-site at the 'wetback shack' (owner's words, and most of the employees were indeed illegals driven over from Acuna, Mexico). This was because he wanted to start work at 4am and this ensured everyone would show up- not his only reason however. We made minimum wage busting and palletizing rock, even if we operated heavy machinery wage didnt change. They charged us $3 per soda or water at the swear to God it literally was Company Store. We also, we found out when we got our 1st check, were charged rent to stay in the shack. I think at what 3.30/hr (one water per hour!) damn near nothing was left. We, my friends and I who had family in Del Rio, Tx, could leave, and we did. The poor bastards who worked harder than anyone and were generally shit on (the illegals) they couldn't leave. The people who were from Comstock outskirts where there were no other jobs or places to rent? They stayed. This was in 1999. Tying living in any way with work is disgusting and not in any way shape or form altruistic.
Red_Leaves_Flyy 5y ago
The company is the “stock market” class.
29083011397778 5y ago
Directly from the article, some business owners are doing better than others because they house [some to a majority of] their workforce. Sure, you're missing the company owning the church, but fewer Americans are religious now. The employer also doesn't own all the local stores, but "It's not a company town because the stores are owned by people that all know each other (due to it being a small town), instead of one individual" is a little too close to be comfortable to me.