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Please be more nuanced in your replies when painting with a wide brush. Florida is absolutely exploding right now, and there's so much housing construction here

Please be more nuanced in your replies when painting with a wide brush. Florida is absolutely exploding right now, and there's so much housing construction here that one can expect to wait for months for contractor availability. I've been in three of the five major FL cities in the past few months and while there are a lot of "help wanted" signs, businesses are open and busier than ever. What's hurting this region is supply chain delays and shortages, which we know are worldwide.

axaxs 5y ago
I'm unsure what you're asking of me...please clarify? I've traveled in or through Asheville, Greenville, Savannah, Knoxville, Jacksonville, and noticed it. Savannah was probably the worst, and it is not a high cost area, at all. I live in Florida. There's a burger king near me that is just...empty. Lights on, nobody there. The 7/11 near me has one employee. He runs 3 registers to keep the line moving. I see him training people about once or twice a month, but they never seem to stick around.
- andrew_ 5y ago
  I didn't ask a question. So your milage varies - not surprising. My experience differs vastly with yours. I've yet to see an understaffed establishment in the Tampa Bay area, nor the three metro areas in FL I've been in recently. Different experience, doesn't make it any less valid.
  - axaxs 5y ago
    You asked me to be more nuanced. Or told me. I'm just asking what you meant by that specifically.
    - andrew_ 5y ago
      I made a request for more nuance, which you provided in a follow up reply. I certainly did not demand that of you; to do so would have been laughable.
BrianOnHN 5y ago
Florida resident here, and I don't ever remember seeing $500 signing bonuses for gas station employees before now. Yes, restaurants are busy here, but the service and food quality is obviously suffering. Look up housing prices in the Tampa bay area. The new construction is all "Luxury" (just a word, still crappy) so they can sell $1,500 one bedrooms to foreigners. Not that anyone's surprised, but look to Florida for more collapses (ecosystems, economic, not just buildings) coming soon...
- andrew_ 5y ago
  > Yes, restaurants are busy here, but the service and food quality is obviously suffering Not in my experience. > Look up housing prices in the Tampa bay area. The new construction is all "Luxury" (just a word, still crappy) so they can sell $1,500 one bedrooms to foreigners. This just reads as incredibly bigoted. We're getting a decent amount of immigration influx but the majority of population rise is from out of state. Affordable housing is being developed and has been the last few years . New funding initiatives for affordable housing are in the works across the bay [1] [2], and there's a massive mixed income complex in planning for a major site across the river from downtown Tampa. Demand is outpacing supply here. Plain and simple. 1. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tampabay.com/news/st-petersburg/2021/07/16/st-petersburg-city-council-provides-funds-for-workforce-housing-and-arts-centers/%3foutputType=amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tampabay.com/news/st-peters... 2. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tampabay.com/news/hillsborough/2021/07/14/hillsborough-countys-budget-plan-rosier-than-expected/%3foutputType=amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tampabay.com/news/hillsboro...
andrew_ 5y ago
I love HN. Anecdotal evidence that goes against the accepted narrative will be downvoted to oblivion. Anecdotal evidence that supports the narrative is praised.
- axaxs 5y ago
  I mean... you're being rather confrontational for no reason IMO. The topic is about staffing shortages in one city. I laid out my experience seeing this same thing elsewhere. And two different people tell you they see it in Florida. Instead of adding your input, which is valid, you seem to contest everyone else. That's my opinion. But I didn't downvote you, as I cannot. I'm glad Tampa doesn't have the same issue most other cities in the US are seeing. You are lucky, it causes a lot of nagging issues.
  - andrew_ 5y ago
    reviewing your other comments on HN, you seem to skew towards assuming hostility or contention, rather than the opposite. I suggest you're viewing my comments through the same lens.

axaxs 5y ago

I'm unsure what you're asking of me...please clarify? I've traveled in or through Asheville, Greenville, Savannah, Knoxville, Jacksonville, and noticed it. Savannah was probably the worst, and it is not a high cost area, at all. I live in Florida. There's a burger king near me that is just...empty. Lights on, nobody there. The 7/11 near me has one employee. He runs 3 registers to keep the line moving. I see him training people about once or twice a month, but they never seem to stick around.

andrew_ 5y ago
I didn't ask a question. So your milage varies - not surprising. My experience differs vastly with yours. I've yet to see an understaffed establishment in the Tampa Bay area, nor the three metro areas in FL I've been in recently. Different experience, doesn't make it any less valid.
- axaxs 5y ago
  You asked me to be more nuanced. Or told me. I'm just asking what you meant by that specifically.
  - andrew_ 5y ago
    I made a request for more nuance, which you provided in a follow up reply. I certainly did not demand that of you; to do so would have been laughable.

BrianOnHN 5y ago

Florida resident here, and I don't ever remember seeing $500 signing bonuses for gas station employees before now. Yes, restaurants are busy here, but the service and food quality is obviously suffering. Look up housing prices in the Tampa bay area. The new construction is all "Luxury" (just a word, still crappy) so they can sell $1,500 one bedrooms to foreigners. Not that anyone's surprised, but look to Florida for more collapses (ecosystems, economic, not just buildings) coming soon...

andrew_ 5y ago
> Yes, restaurants are busy here, but the service and food quality is obviously suffering Not in my experience. > Look up housing prices in the Tampa bay area. The new construction is all "Luxury" (just a word, still crappy) so they can sell $1,500 one bedrooms to foreigners. This just reads as incredibly bigoted. We're getting a decent amount of immigration influx but the majority of population rise is from out of state. Affordable housing is being developed and has been the last few years . New funding initiatives for affordable housing are in the works across the bay [1] [2], and there's a massive mixed income complex in planning for a major site across the river from downtown Tampa. Demand is outpacing supply here. Plain and simple. 1. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tampabay.com/news/st-petersburg/2021/07/16/st-petersburg-city-council-provides-funds-for-workforce-housing-and-arts-centers/%3foutputType=amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tampabay.com/news/st-peters... 2. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tampabay.com/news/hillsborough/2021/07/14/hillsborough-countys-budget-plan-rosier-than-expected/%3foutputType=amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tampabay.com/news/hillsboro...

andrew_ 5y ago

I love HN. Anecdotal evidence that goes against the accepted narrative will be downvoted to oblivion. Anecdotal evidence that supports the narrative is praised.

axaxs 5y ago
I mean... you're being rather confrontational for no reason IMO. The topic is about staffing shortages in one city. I laid out my experience seeing this same thing elsewhere. And two different people tell you they see it in Florida. Instead of adding your input, which is valid, you seem to contest everyone else. That's my opinion. But I didn't downvote you, as I cannot. I'm glad Tampa doesn't have the same issue most other cities in the US are seeing. You are lucky, it causes a lot of nagging issues.
- andrew_ 5y ago
  reviewing your other comments on HN, you seem to skew towards assuming hostility or contention, rather than the opposite. I suggest you're viewing my comments through the same lens.