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> Our vaccine acquisition strategy was a disaster Not sure if the facts agree with you here. Canada had, at one point, the largest number of vaccines on order

by mcrae 5y ago

> Our vaccine acquisition strategy was a disaster Not sure if the facts agree with you here. Canada had, at one point, the largest number of vaccines on order per capita from a number of different companies. [0] You seem to dismiss this news which contradicts your point - that Canada has better vaccination outcomes than those countries who DO produce vaccines, like the US and the UK, to say nothing of peer countries like Australia. [1] Certainly many aspects of the pandemic response could have been massively improved on — but I’m not sure if there’s any citizen of any country that doesn’t feel that way today. My suggestion: open your eyes a bit and take a moment to be thankful for the relatively good outcomes we’ve enjoyed vs the rest of the world. We’re not under anyone’s thumb yet. [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/15/us/coronavirus-vaccine-doses-reserved.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/15/us/coronavirus-vaccine-do... [1] https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

cal5k 5y ago
Better outcomes as measured how? I received both vaccine doses while visiting Texas, months before my friends in Canada. I was also going mask-free in Texas over 3 months before I was able to do so in Alberta. When I returned to Canada, I risked huge fines by refusing to stay in a government-mandated quarantine hotel (despite the fact that I was already fully vaccinated), and still had to quarantine at home for 2 weeks. Again, despite the fact that I was fully vaccinated. No quarantine at all was required when I landed in Texas 6 weeks prior to that. A lot of Canadians blindly point to mortality statistics without a) correcting for differences that predate covid, and b) consideration of fundamental freedoms. This is apparently a minority view in Canada, but I (and many others) value preservation of natural rights over safetyism.
- lolwut12345 5y ago
  Sounds like you are kind of playing fast and loose with the word “evidence”. You understand Texas is literally the land of “hey, you need to winterize your infrastructure or people will die”, twice over, less than a decade apart? It’s almost like they start with what they think should happen and find “facts” to match their ideals, not reality. But sure, let’s say that our moron friends to the north in Alberta were a well run, functional democratic crew, and not a 30 year reign of clueless cronies, that still doesn’t say much about Canada as a whole, which mostly did better than Alberta. Noting that Alberta as a whole is as large as one of the suburbs shit out of a real city in the rest of Canada. I can say that, as an Albertan living in the southern states. But sure, we should all pay more attention to what you think should happen, smart guy.

by mcrae 5y ago

cal5k 5y ago

Better outcomes as measured how? I received both vaccine doses while visiting Texas, months before my friends in Canada. I was also going mask-free in Texas over 3 months before I was able to do so in Alberta. When I returned to Canada, I risked huge fines by refusing to stay in a government-mandated quarantine hotel (despite the fact that I was already fully vaccinated), and still had to quarantine at home for 2 weeks. Again, despite the fact that I was fully vaccinated. No quarantine at all was required when I landed in Texas 6 weeks prior to that. A lot of Canadians blindly point to mortality statistics without a) correcting for differences that predate covid, and b) consideration of fundamental freedoms. This is apparently a minority view in Canada, but I (and many others) value preservation of natural rights over safetyism.

lolwut12345 5y ago
Sounds like you are kind of playing fast and loose with the word “evidence”. You understand Texas is literally the land of “hey, you need to winterize your infrastructure or people will die”, twice over, less than a decade apart? It’s almost like they start with what they think should happen and find “facts” to match their ideals, not reality. But sure, let’s say that our moron friends to the north in Alberta were a well run, functional democratic crew, and not a 30 year reign of clueless cronies, that still doesn’t say much about Canada as a whole, which mostly did better than Alberta. Noting that Alberta as a whole is as large as one of the suburbs shit out of a real city in the rest of Canada. I can say that, as an Albertan living in the southern states. But sure, we should all pay more attention to what you think should happen, smart guy.