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autopilot drives like a teenager who just got their license. It makes extremely rookie mistakes and often behaves in unpredictable ways, which is extremely uns

autopilot drives like a teenager who just got their license. It makes extremely rookie mistakes and often behaves in unpredictable ways, which is extremely unsafe. It loves to hang out in blind spots and cannot anticipate the most obvious intentions of other drivers. I really like traffic aware cruise control as one of the best adaptive cruise controls out there, but autopilot is a mess and I don't use it. I haven't tried the full self driving beta since I wasn't about to give Tesla ten grand so the car can change its own lanes, but I can't imagine it's any better.

throwaway98797 5y ago
it changes lanes well and performs well on the highway in most conditions. i sometimes find it safer in heavy rain than my own driving. that being said its not safe to use without paying attention in bad traffic or erratic city driving. the problem is it doesnt drive as defensivable as a good human which is required in cities with aggressive drivers.
- ohgodplsno 5y ago
  > i sometimes find it safer in heavy rain than my own driving. I think that says a little bit more about your driving that it does about Tesla.
  - ip26 5y ago
    Depending on conditions, and if there are no Botts’ Dots, lane markers can be pretty tough to see in a heavy rain. Computer vision with many eyes may one day beat us here.
  - mannykannot 5y ago
    A more charitable view is that an attentive driver with FSD is safer than a driver alone. After all, the F in FSD does not really stand for "fully autonomous", right?
    - ErikVandeWater 5y ago
      You could also arguably say that FSD makes drivers attentive by threatening to end their lives multiple times during a commute.
      - mannykannot 5y ago
        It is not at all plausible that FSD-using cars threaten to kill their drivers more frequently than if FSD were off.
Noujin 5y ago
> I haven't tried the full self driving beta since I wasn't about to give Tesla ten grand so the car can change its own lanes, but I can't imagine it's any better. So you admit you know nothing about the FSD beta (you think you will enter it by buying FSD) and then say you can't imagine it's any better? Please look for yourself. It's all over YouTube and comparing Autopilot to the FSD Beta is like comparing apples to oranges.

throwaway98797 5y ago

it changes lanes well and performs well on the highway in most conditions. i sometimes find it safer in heavy rain than my own driving. that being said its not safe to use without paying attention in bad traffic or erratic city driving. the problem is it doesnt drive as defensivable as a good human which is required in cities with aggressive drivers.

ohgodplsno 5y ago
> i sometimes find it safer in heavy rain than my own driving. I think that says a little bit more about your driving that it does about Tesla.
- ip26 5y ago
  Depending on conditions, and if there are no Botts’ Dots, lane markers can be pretty tough to see in a heavy rain. Computer vision with many eyes may one day beat us here.
- mannykannot 5y ago
  A more charitable view is that an attentive driver with FSD is safer than a driver alone. After all, the F in FSD does not really stand for "fully autonomous", right?
  - ErikVandeWater 5y ago
    You could also arguably say that FSD makes drivers attentive by threatening to end their lives multiple times during a commute.
    - mannykannot 5y ago
      It is not at all plausible that FSD-using cars threaten to kill their drivers more frequently than if FSD were off.

Noujin 5y ago

> I haven't tried the full self driving beta since I wasn't about to give Tesla ten grand so the car can change its own lanes, but I can't imagine it's any better. So you admit you know nothing about the FSD beta (you think you will enter it by buying FSD) and then say you can't imagine it's any better? Please look for yourself. It's all over YouTube and comparing Autopilot to the FSD Beta is like comparing apples to oranges.