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Netanyahu urged Trump to strike Iran after losing presidency

32 points by xbmcuser 5y ago

fareesh 5y ago
I hope this TMZ era of politics has peaked. People make all sorts of extraordinary claims and predictably people who have their existing biases will eat it up and add to their already slanted view of the world.
roenxi 5y ago
Practically speaking, somebody linked to the US government - maybe in the Republican party, maybe in the bureaucracy - is very much in favour of invading places near Iran. The US has invaded Iraq (West of Iran) and Afghanistan (East of Iran). Flippantly speaking, if they want 3-in-a-row the logical thing to do is invade Iran. Probably the best thing in Iran's favour is the US shale gas revolution meaning oil has been deprioritised.
- jasonwatkinspdx 5y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_C... It's been a goal of these people for quite some time. Remember Cheney standing at the podium chanting "bomb bomb bomb Iran" to the tune of Labamba? Sadly they got their way in Iraq, caused the death of a couple 100,000 people, destabilized the nation, and gave US voters 2 decades of lives and money lost.
  - hairofadog 5y ago
    This isn’t a comment about the point you’re making but I’m pretty sure you’re thinking of McCain singing to the tune of “Barbara Ann”.
  - wayneftw 5y ago
    I think it was closer to 1 million dead - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-deaths-survey/iraq-conflict-has-killed-a-million-iraqis-survey-idUSL3048857920080130 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-deaths-survey/iraq-c...
dukeofdoom 5y ago
Trump befriended Netanyahu on Twitter after Netanyahu was the first one to congratulation Biden after the election while he was still contesting the outcome. Supposedly Trump is still bitter about the betrayal. https://english.alaraby.co.uk/news/did-donald-trump-unfollow-israels-netanyahu-congratulating-biden https://english.alaraby.co.uk/news/did-donald-trump-unfollow...
jacob2484 5y ago
Trump - first president in over 40 years to NOT start a war.
- elliekelly 5y ago
  I’m glad we didn’t go to war but I don’t think this is some sort of accomplishment that the career leaders of one of the most notoriously trigger-happy militaries in the world did everything in their power to avoid a war while he was at the helm. If anything I think it’s an indictment of his incompetence as commander in chief.
  - noaccnt 5y ago
    Generals are on record saying that they would lie to Trump to keep troops in the ME. Trump would give the military deadlines to win or get out of the ME, and they would always beg for an extension. If anyone talked Trump out of starting a war, it was Tucker Carlson vis-a-vis Iran. Trump did have a bone to pick with Iran, but he did pretty much nothing except kill Rouhani (want to compare that with I'm-pretty-good-at-this-killing-business Obama's kill list?)
- markoman 5y ago
  Please fill us in on what war Obama started? Trump didn't do much for peace in the middle east when he moved the Israeli embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
  - redis_mlc 5y ago
    Obama failed to defend the Philippines' Scarborough Shoals per our treaty, resulting in an arms race in that region after CCP's 9-dashed line grab. The CCP politician in charge of the SS operation at that time was ... Xi Jinping. There are far-reaching impacts from Obama's negligence, possibly leading to WW3. If anybody has anything good to say about Obama, or anything that he accomplished, I'd like to hear it. So far what I've heard is that he perfected racial division in politics, and was the most paranoid and aggressive President about press leaks in history, despite promoting transparency before the election.
smoyer 5y ago
> Because they are evil As a US citizen, I'd like to be able to once again travel the world without people thinking thus about me.
- akmarinov 5y ago
  Just say you’re Canadian, eh?
  - noaccnt 5y ago
    Unless you're traveling inside the pockets of Canada where there are still natives who have managed to survive Ottawa's centuries old genocide.
akmarinov 5y ago
Wonder what Trump urged Netanyahu to do before he lost the prime minister spot?

32 points by xbmcuser 5y ago

I hope this TMZ era of politics has peaked. People make all sorts of extraordinary claims and predictably people who have their existing biases will eat it up and add to their already slanted view of the world.

roenxi 5y ago

Practically speaking, somebody linked to the US government - maybe in the Republican party, maybe in the bureaucracy - is very much in favour of invading places near Iran. The US has invaded Iraq (West of Iran) and Afghanistan (East of Iran). Flippantly speaking, if they want 3-in-a-row the logical thing to do is invade Iran. Probably the best thing in Iran's favour is the US shale gas revolution meaning oil has been deprioritised.

jasonwatkinspdx 5y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_C... It's been a goal of these people for quite some time. Remember Cheney standing at the podium chanting "bomb bomb bomb Iran" to the tune of Labamba? Sadly they got their way in Iraq, caused the death of a couple 100,000 people, destabilized the nation, and gave US voters 2 decades of lives and money lost.
- hairofadog 5y ago
  This isn’t a comment about the point you’re making but I’m pretty sure you’re thinking of McCain singing to the tune of “Barbara Ann”.
- wayneftw 5y ago
  I think it was closer to 1 million dead - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-deaths-survey/iraq-conflict-has-killed-a-million-iraqis-survey-idUSL3048857920080130 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-deaths-survey/iraq-c...

dukeofdoom 5y ago

Trump befriended Netanyahu on Twitter after Netanyahu was the first one to congratulation Biden after the election while he was still contesting the outcome. Supposedly Trump is still bitter about the betrayal. https://english.alaraby.co.uk/news/did-donald-trump-unfollow-israels-netanyahu-congratulating-biden https://english.alaraby.co.uk/news/did-donald-trump-unfollow...

jacob2484 5y ago

Trump - first president in over 40 years to NOT start a war.

elliekelly 5y ago
I’m glad we didn’t go to war but I don’t think this is some sort of accomplishment that the career leaders of one of the most notoriously trigger-happy militaries in the world did everything in their power to avoid a war while he was at the helm. If anything I think it’s an indictment of his incompetence as commander in chief.
- noaccnt 5y ago
  Generals are on record saying that they would lie to Trump to keep troops in the ME. Trump would give the military deadlines to win or get out of the ME, and they would always beg for an extension. If anyone talked Trump out of starting a war, it was Tucker Carlson vis-a-vis Iran. Trump did have a bone to pick with Iran, but he did pretty much nothing except kill Rouhani (want to compare that with I'm-pretty-good-at-this-killing-business Obama's kill list?)
markoman 5y ago
Please fill us in on what war Obama started? Trump didn't do much for peace in the middle east when he moved the Israeli embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
- redis_mlc 5y ago
  Obama failed to defend the Philippines' Scarborough Shoals per our treaty, resulting in an arms race in that region after CCP's 9-dashed line grab. The CCP politician in charge of the SS operation at that time was ... Xi Jinping. There are far-reaching impacts from Obama's negligence, possibly leading to WW3. If anybody has anything good to say about Obama, or anything that he accomplished, I'd like to hear it. So far what I've heard is that he perfected racial division in politics, and was the most paranoid and aggressive President about press leaks in history, despite promoting transparency before the election.

smoyer 5y ago

> Because they are evil As a US citizen, I'd like to be able to once again travel the world without people thinking thus about me.

akmarinov 5y ago
Just say you’re Canadian, eh?
- noaccnt 5y ago
  Unless you're traveling inside the pockets of Canada where there are still natives who have managed to survive Ottawa's centuries old genocide.

akmarinov 5y ago

Wonder what Trump urged Netanyahu to do before he lost the prime minister spot?