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I read mobile industry mania's blogpost written in Japanese, it argues that OPPO was delivered from BBK but there are no capital relationship between BBK Commun

I read mobile industry mania's blogpost written in Japanese, it argues that OPPO was delivered from BBK but there are no capital relationship between BBK Communication Technology and OPPO(Guangdong Oujia Holdings). It also refers Nikkei's article confirmed that. http://blogofmobile.com/article/121143 http://blogofmobile.com/article/121143 I searched and it seems true. https://www.qichamao.com/orgcompany/searchitemdtl/e6f25044f98a7ad6624460e32863758d.html https://www.qichamao.com/orgcompany/searchitemdtl/e6f25044f9... https://www.aitouyan.com/news/7877.html https://www.aitouyan.com/news/7877.html (read via translate!)

Wronnay 5y ago
It's really confusing because so many Wikipedia and Media Articles write that Oppo is a Subsidiary of BBK...
- fomine3 5y ago
  I wish English writer investigate about this topic
  - ksec 5y ago
    They are not, in the straight sense of Subsidiary. >A subsidiary, subsidiary company or daughter company is a company owned or controlled by another company, Hence that is why using BBK as one would have been wrong. BBK does not own majority of shares, nor de jure voting power. But in a complex power relationship BBK do have much higher leverage or with other investor de facto voting power. Think if Foxconn decided to invest into 5 different Phone making companies, ( Like the current Nokia Smartphone ) and Foxconn is a shareholder and provide technical and manufacturing consultancy, you would not list them all under Foxconn right? I wont blame the English main stream media most of them are so late to anything from Japan and China it is borderline comical. I mean when I first mentioned BBK in 2015 no one had a clue what I was talking about. My earliest comment on BBK on HN was from Jan 2018 [1]. Barely anyone knew BBK then. As a matter of fact even right now not that many have heard of BBK. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16265008 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16265008
baybal2 5y ago
Both are (in part) owned by Duan, and are manufactured in same facilities.
- Wronnay 5y ago
  After the linked Article, Oppo is owned by 广东欧加控股有限公司工会委员会 which CEO is 曾元清 (Zeng Yuanqing)
- fomine3 5y ago
  Manufacturer facility is no longer a matter since every brand uses ODM at least for some lineups.
sudosysgen 5y ago
That seems unlikely considering the hardware similarities between OPPO, Vivo and OnePlus phones.
- fomine3 5y ago
  There are no doubt about similarity of OPPO, OnePlus, and realme since they are under OPPO. Just curious how vivo similar?

Wronnay 5y ago

It's really confusing because so many Wikipedia and Media Articles write that Oppo is a Subsidiary of BBK...

fomine3 5y ago
I wish English writer investigate about this topic
- ksec 5y ago
  They are not, in the straight sense of Subsidiary. >A subsidiary, subsidiary company or daughter company is a company owned or controlled by another company, Hence that is why using BBK as one would have been wrong. BBK does not own majority of shares, nor de jure voting power. But in a complex power relationship BBK do have much higher leverage or with other investor de facto voting power. Think if Foxconn decided to invest into 5 different Phone making companies, ( Like the current Nokia Smartphone ) and Foxconn is a shareholder and provide technical and manufacturing consultancy, you would not list them all under Foxconn right? I wont blame the English main stream media most of them are so late to anything from Japan and China it is borderline comical. I mean when I first mentioned BBK in 2015 no one had a clue what I was talking about. My earliest comment on BBK on HN was from Jan 2018 [1]. Barely anyone knew BBK then. As a matter of fact even right now not that many have heard of BBK. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16265008 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16265008

baybal2 5y ago

Both are (in part) owned by Duan, and are manufactured in same facilities.

Wronnay 5y ago
After the linked Article, Oppo is owned by 广东欧加控股有限公司工会委员会 which CEO is 曾元清 (Zeng Yuanqing)
fomine3 5y ago
Manufacturer facility is no longer a matter since every brand uses ODM at least for some lineups.

sudosysgen 5y ago

That seems unlikely considering the hardware similarities between OPPO, Vivo and OnePlus phones.

fomine3 5y ago
There are no doubt about similarity of OPPO, OnePlus, and realme since they are under OPPO. Just curious how vivo similar?