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> I think that Google using data to personalize ads and recommend videos is ethically ok. “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salar

> I think that Google using data to personalize ads and recommend videos is ethically ok. “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

mgraczyk 5y ago
My salary doesn't depend on it. Lots of people who I work with do not agree with my views on this. In fact I'd wager that most people in my org would disagree with me. Either way, I joined recently and I'll leave at some point. My comings and goings from Google will have nothing to do with this, because it's not very important to me and I have always thought personalized ads were ethically ok.
- vishnumohandas 5y ago
  > My salary doesn't depend on it. Given that 80% of Google's revenue comes from ads[1], it would be incorrect to assume this. Disclosure: Xoogler here. [1]: https://abc.xyz/investor/static/pdf/2021Q1_alphabet_earnings_release.pdf https://abc.xyz/investor/static/pdf/2021Q1_alphabet_earnings...
  - mgraczyk 5y ago
    My salary may depend on ads, but that's not the point I was making. I was pointing out that my salary does not depend on my beliefs about ads. My evidence is that many with opposite beliefs receive the same salary.
    - pydry 5y ago
      It's difficult. It's not impossible.
  - emteycz 5y ago
    Have you not been on the market lately? Any software engineer has nearly infinite opportunities, and the same is true for many other roles around IT. Dependence doesn't look like that.
    - GiorgioG 5y ago
      Yep I have been in the market, but there aren’t that many Google level opportunities out there.
      - emteycz 5y ago
        You think a person capable of getting into Google is not capable to get into any other FAANG company? I'd assume they're the ones persuading them to switch - why'd the FAANG companies look for candidates without that experience (e.g. on Linkedin) and reject someone with it?
- dredmorbius 5y ago
  How's the corn-pone? https://www.thoughtco.com/corn-pone-opinions-by-mark-twain-1690231 https://www.thoughtco.com/corn-pone-opinions-by-mark-twain-1...

mgraczyk 5y ago

My salary doesn't depend on it. Lots of people who I work with do not agree with my views on this. In fact I'd wager that most people in my org would disagree with me. Either way, I joined recently and I'll leave at some point. My comings and goings from Google will have nothing to do with this, because it's not very important to me and I have always thought personalized ads were ethically ok.

vishnumohandas 5y ago
> My salary doesn't depend on it. Given that 80% of Google's revenue comes from ads[1], it would be incorrect to assume this. Disclosure: Xoogler here. [1]: https://abc.xyz/investor/static/pdf/2021Q1_alphabet_earnings_release.pdf https://abc.xyz/investor/static/pdf/2021Q1_alphabet_earnings...
- mgraczyk 5y ago
  My salary may depend on ads, but that's not the point I was making. I was pointing out that my salary does not depend on my beliefs about ads. My evidence is that many with opposite beliefs receive the same salary.
  - pydry 5y ago
    It's difficult. It's not impossible.
- emteycz 5y ago
  Have you not been on the market lately? Any software engineer has nearly infinite opportunities, and the same is true for many other roles around IT. Dependence doesn't look like that.
  - GiorgioG 5y ago
    Yep I have been in the market, but there aren’t that many Google level opportunities out there.
    - emteycz 5y ago
      You think a person capable of getting into Google is not capable to get into any other FAANG company? I'd assume they're the ones persuading them to switch - why'd the FAANG companies look for candidates without that experience (e.g. on Linkedin) and reject someone with it?
dredmorbius 5y ago
How's the corn-pone? https://www.thoughtco.com/corn-pone-opinions-by-mark-twain-1690231 https://www.thoughtco.com/corn-pone-opinions-by-mark-twain-1...