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It’s roughly comparable for extraction cost for comparable weight: large variation depending on circumstances, etc. but you need 63 kg of Lithium for a Telsa th
by bertil 5y ago
It’s roughly comparable for extraction cost for comparable weight: large variation depending on circumstances, etc. but you need 63 kg of Lithium for a Telsa that should drive a million miles. You’d need 50 thousand gallons of gas (200,000 L or 160 tons) to cover the same distance. So about three thousands times worst. The lifecycle balance isn’t something you can draw at scale on a high-definition screen and have the electric impact occupy more than a pixel or two.
Same for Cobalt: it used to be used to make batteries, so there are worrisome stories but the metal is also something that refineries put in gas so… kinda the same: you are comparing a component with a consumable.
Finally, you mention China, or you could have asked about Chile to, for Lithium. Neither are really the largest producers. They sure sound politically scary but it’s harder to paint Australia has a dangerous dictature. Scary countries aren’t the biggest marginal plan if prices go up: the reserves in Canada and USA are more promising.
So yeah: shifting to those technologies will force a big geopolitical change and the executives at fossil fuel companies who boasted being accused of war crimes as a sign of commitment a sure way to advance their careers in front of large group including me (sic) might have a bit of a reckoning. I’ll let you guess which war zone, environmental disaster there were talking so causally about, because they are so many — hint: they were also accused of genocide there; except that’s not really a helpful hint, is it? The oil barons in the Gulf who routinely use slavery and prostitue girls as young as 7 or 8, both in broad daylight, might have to change their lifestyle too.
Some people think that having a CEO posting weird meme on twitter, or advocating for long shift to end [see paragraph above] is unacceptable. Sure, it’s improvable as far as leadership goes, but… I like to ask: what’s the alternative? If we don’t have that, what do we have? In my case, it’s the eyes of a little girl, dragged through the hall of a luxurious hotel in Dubai. The documentarian who filmed and commented that scene had no doubt what was happening, or who paid for it: he did, every time he filled his tank.
- cinquemb 5y ago> So yeah: shifting to those technologies will force a big geopolitical change and the executives at fossil fuel companies who boasted being accused of war crimes as a sign of commitment a sure way to advance their careers in front of large group including me (sic) might have a bit of a reckoning. I’ll let you guess which war zone, environmental disaster there were talking so causally about, because they are so many — hint: they were also accused of genocide there; except that’s not really a helpful hint, is it? The oil barons in the Gulf who routinely use slavery and prostitue girls as young as 7 or 8, both in broad daylight, might have to change their lifestyle too. One also has to consider that existing structure of the global financial system, that finances a lot of these operations and has a lot of value locked up in them long term, has less incentive to pursue such initiatives to the degree that they can hedge the downside risks of the long term losses on those assets onto somebody else while building out new renewable infrastructure.