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The most obnoxious ads for me is Youtube ads nowadays. I could live with everything else, but Youtube makes me crazy. And hosts can't block youtube ads unfortun

The most obnoxious ads for me is Youtube ads nowadays. I could live with everything else, but Youtube makes me crazy. And hosts can't block youtube ads unfortunately. PS Youtube Premium is not available in my country.

wintermutestwin 5y ago
PS you are already paying them with your data. Baubles for gold as it were...
- GuB-42 5y ago
  PS: Your data is worth much less than you think. It may be worth billions in total, but that's only because Google have billions of users. If they don't show you ads, I don't think your personal data is worth more than pennies. And YouTube is expensive. You don't really "pay with your data". You pay by buying products you see on ads. Your data is mostly used to show you products you are most likely to pay for. But if you remove the ads, then your data is mostly worthless. To go with your analogy, YouTube is gold, your data is baubles. And sure enough, your data may be worth a lot to you, like a bauble with great sentimental value, but with almost no resale value.
  - 1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
    "And YouTube is expensive." Serving you with the small number of videos you watch is not expensive. Doing this for billions of other people so it can hoover up large aomunts of personal data and serve ads, thats expensive. When data, e.g., video, is shared peer-to-peer (the original design of the internet) without ad-supported middlemen, the expense is borne by the peers. They each pay for their internet connection and the bandwidth they use. Much more efficient and less costly. Thats why people do video calls over peer-to-peer links.
1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
Its possible to not retrieve ads, at least for some videos. I never see ads on the ones I watch. I do not use an ad blocker, I just exercise control over HTTP and DNS. Could you provide an example of a video where you believe its impossible not to retrieve ads.
- vbezhenar 5y ago
  Well, literally any video. I used developer tools/network to monitor requests and all video fragments for video ads are coming from the same domain as main video. Actual blocking is implemented by modifying some REST responses from youtube backend.
  - 1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
    It cant be "any video" because I am able to watch many videos without any ads in the browser, even with Javascript enabled. I think it is only some videos. Can you provide a single example. Which itag do you use. I want to test.
    - vbezhenar 5y ago
      Youtube puts ads in any video for me. I don't know any exceptions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqBn6ts-Srk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqBn6ts-Srk is just one random video from my suggestions which i opened and was immediately met with grammarly ad.
      - 1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
        I tried this example; it played without any ads. Screen recording as proof: https://ufile.io/8upqzbci https://ufile.io/8upqzbci
        bdowling 5y ago
        Youtube only plays an ad if (1) Youtube decides to offer an ad slot and (2) a buyer buys the ad slot. This happens in a fraction of a second based on what the ad buyers have programmed that they want to buy. Ad buyers usually want ads targeted to users in certain countries and with certain demographics (age, income level, etc.). If your location or demographics aren't what Youtube can sell to an ad buyer, you won't see an ad.
        5y ago
timbit42 5y ago
You might enjoy the SponsorBlock add-on if you aren't already using it.
Iolaum 5y ago
NewPipe however is ;)

wintermutestwin 5y ago

PS you are already paying them with your data. Baubles for gold as it were...

GuB-42 5y ago
PS: Your data is worth much less than you think. It may be worth billions in total, but that's only because Google have billions of users. If they don't show you ads, I don't think your personal data is worth more than pennies. And YouTube is expensive. You don't really "pay with your data". You pay by buying products you see on ads. Your data is mostly used to show you products you are most likely to pay for. But if you remove the ads, then your data is mostly worthless. To go with your analogy, YouTube is gold, your data is baubles. And sure enough, your data may be worth a lot to you, like a bauble with great sentimental value, but with almost no resale value.
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
  "And YouTube is expensive." Serving you with the small number of videos you watch is not expensive. Doing this for billions of other people so it can hoover up large aomunts of personal data and serve ads, thats expensive. When data, e.g., video, is shared peer-to-peer (the original design of the internet) without ad-supported middlemen, the expense is borne by the peers. They each pay for their internet connection and the bandwidth they use. Much more efficient and less costly. Thats why people do video calls over peer-to-peer links.

1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago

Its possible to not retrieve ads, at least for some videos. I never see ads on the ones I watch. I do not use an ad blocker, I just exercise control over HTTP and DNS. Could you provide an example of a video where you believe its impossible not to retrieve ads.

vbezhenar 5y ago
Well, literally any video. I used developer tools/network to monitor requests and all video fragments for video ads are coming from the same domain as main video. Actual blocking is implemented by modifying some REST responses from youtube backend.
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
  It cant be "any video" because I am able to watch many videos without any ads in the browser, even with Javascript enabled. I think it is only some videos. Can you provide a single example. Which itag do you use. I want to test.
  - vbezhenar 5y ago
    Youtube puts ads in any video for me. I don't know any exceptions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqBn6ts-Srk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqBn6ts-Srk is just one random video from my suggestions which i opened and was immediately met with grammarly ad.
    - 1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
      I tried this example; it played without any ads. Screen recording as proof: https://ufile.io/8upqzbci https://ufile.io/8upqzbci
      - bdowling 5y ago
        Youtube only plays an ad if (1) Youtube decides to offer an ad slot and (2) a buyer buys the ad slot. This happens in a fraction of a second based on what the ad buyers have programmed that they want to buy. Ad buyers usually want ads targeted to users in certain countries and with certain demographics (age, income level, etc.). If your location or demographics aren't what Youtube can sell to an ad buyer, you won't see an ad.
        5y ago

timbit42 5y ago

You might enjoy the SponsorBlock add-on if you aren't already using it.

Iolaum 5y ago

NewPipe however is ;)