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This site is amongst the worst to navigate on mobile, whilst the design is quite unique.

notatoad 5y ago
https://outline.com/WrPPDK https://outline.com/WrPPDK but a new layout doesn't make this much easier to read. the writing style mirrors the site layout - it's more for the author's amusement than the benefit of the reader.
netr0ute 5y ago
I couldn't stand reading past the first paragraph because it's that bad.
phblinn 5y ago
Just fixed that. It now accommodates cell width.
- netr0ute 5y ago
  It's somehow even worse now as the text takes up a third of the screen width and there's so much UI that doesn't tell you what it does.
- TheRealPomax 5y ago
  Unfortunately even on desktop, this is far from a nice experience... https://i.imgur.com/9oPlfkU.png https://i.imgur.com/9oPlfkU.png Just put the content on the page, with each section left to size itself based on however-much content is in it, instead of giving each section its own scrollbar at least?
- HatchedLake721 5y ago
  Looking at your source code, any reason you're doing hand-rolled css, layouts, scrollable divs with main content, inline css? I remember doing this 15 years ago. Today this is a problem that was solved dozens of times, from Bootstrap, to Zurb and Tailwind - with productivity, accessibility and variety of devices and screen-sizes in mind. Your website is unpleasant to use and scroll. It feels you're reinventing the wheel just for the sake of it?
  - netr0ute 5y ago
    I make my website hand-made too, but because I found those tools to take too long to set up exactly how I want or they're too bulky.
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  - andrewzah 5y ago
    I write my own css for my statically generated website (andrewzah.com). The problem with bootstrap etc is exactly that they’re aimed at being generic. They’re not specific enough to do what I want quite how I want it… and there’s the burden of learning them. It’s a lot easier to start with a good, semantic html structure and come up with exactly the CSS that one needs, rather than continually fight a system aimed at no one in particular. Not to mention the bloat of unnecessary CSS/JS that you don’t actually need.
TapamN 5y ago
It's bad on desktop, too. If I hit page down, it scrolls the size of the frame, and not my screen. The frame is taller than my screen, so page down scrolls more than a screen full. I would have to use arrow keys or the mouse wheel to read it. I tried scaling the page down so that the frame fits on screen, but page down still scrolls too far, somehow?
- phblinn 5y ago
  Weird. Naturally it works beautifully on mine with two different browsers, though I'm not in the habit of using the page-down key. I'll have to investigate that one further, I guess.
  - Santosh83 5y ago
    Works as it should for me too, on desktop Firefox here. Site design and fonts are quite nice. People on HN often lament the death of the "old web", but when we do get a site handwritten and with a personality, they turn around and say it is not usable. The strength of humans is our flexibility. We're not computer programs that throw an exception the moment their api is violated and an unexpected input happens.
Clewza313 5y ago
The ligatures (ﬆ etc) are also quite distracting.
- aarchi 5y ago
  I like these discretionary ligatures. They give a text character.

https://outline.com/WrPPDK https://outline.com/WrPPDK but a new layout doesn't make this much easier to read. the writing style mirrors the site layout - it's more for the author's amusement than the benefit of the reader.

netr0ute 5y ago

I couldn't stand reading past the first paragraph because it's that bad.

phblinn 5y ago

Just fixed that. It now accommodates cell width.

netr0ute 5y ago
It's somehow even worse now as the text takes up a third of the screen width and there's so much UI that doesn't tell you what it does.
TheRealPomax 5y ago
Unfortunately even on desktop, this is far from a nice experience... https://i.imgur.com/9oPlfkU.png https://i.imgur.com/9oPlfkU.png Just put the content on the page, with each section left to size itself based on however-much content is in it, instead of giving each section its own scrollbar at least?
HatchedLake721 5y ago
Looking at your source code, any reason you're doing hand-rolled css, layouts, scrollable divs with main content, inline css? I remember doing this 15 years ago. Today this is a problem that was solved dozens of times, from Bootstrap, to Zurb and Tailwind - with productivity, accessibility and variety of devices and screen-sizes in mind. Your website is unpleasant to use and scroll. It feels you're reinventing the wheel just for the sake of it?
- netr0ute 5y ago
  I make my website hand-made too, but because I found those tools to take too long to set up exactly how I want or they're too bulky.
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
- andrewzah 5y ago
  I write my own css for my statically generated website (andrewzah.com). The problem with bootstrap etc is exactly that they’re aimed at being generic. They’re not specific enough to do what I want quite how I want it… and there’s the burden of learning them. It’s a lot easier to start with a good, semantic html structure and come up with exactly the CSS that one needs, rather than continually fight a system aimed at no one in particular. Not to mention the bloat of unnecessary CSS/JS that you don’t actually need.

TapamN 5y ago

It's bad on desktop, too. If I hit page down, it scrolls the size of the frame, and not my screen. The frame is taller than my screen, so page down scrolls more than a screen full. I would have to use arrow keys or the mouse wheel to read it. I tried scaling the page down so that the frame fits on screen, but page down still scrolls too far, somehow?

phblinn 5y ago
Weird. Naturally it works beautifully on mine with two different browsers, though I'm not in the habit of using the page-down key. I'll have to investigate that one further, I guess.
- Santosh83 5y ago
  Works as it should for me too, on desktop Firefox here. Site design and fonts are quite nice. People on HN often lament the death of the "old web", but when we do get a site handwritten and with a personality, they turn around and say it is not usable. The strength of humans is our flexibility. We're not computer programs that throw an exception the moment their api is violated and an unexpected input happens.

Clewza313 5y ago

The ligatures (ﬆ etc) are also quite distracting.

aarchi 5y ago
I like these discretionary ligatures. They give a text character.