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People like that work the same hours in the EU.

by bserge 5y ago

Kwpolska 5y ago
Working 7 days a week all the time is not legal in the EU, see [0]. Also, many EU countries have even stricter local regulations in that regard. https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/human-resources/working-hours-holiday-leave/working-hours/index_en.htm https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/human-resources/workin...
- Tarucho 5y ago
  But are the regulations enforced?
  - mrunkel 5y ago
    Yes
  - celticninja 5y ago
    Yes, although workarounds exist, but not in a way that would make this sort of employment possible.
  - raffraffraff 5y ago
    I would say yes and no. If you (the employee) are heavily invested in the success of the company because you have a lot of stock options, or its success would look great on your work history, or you lied about having certain skills and now you have to work double to get the job done while learning, then you might decide to put in crazy hours. But that is a don't ask / don't tell situation. If there is any record that management knew you were working 7 days straight, then they would be in the soup. But ultimately this gives the power to the employee. At a previous company where I was that overworking employee, management tried to force a new oncall rota onto the whole team which clearly took the piss, I was able to pull on the ripcord and say "fuck, no". Unfortunately this put more pressure on the US team. And if management try to fire you in Europe they better have a better reason than "wouldn't work longer hours" or "knows their rights", so you're protected when you do raise the concern.
  - Bayart 5y ago
    As an employer, you don't want to be on the bad side of labour court.
hosenten 5y ago
You have even mandatory holiday as intern. You have health care either through your family or through any normal job including flipping burgers. You have min 20 days holiday as burger flipper as well. It's a shame how unfair humans get treated in the USA or let's say disgusting. And no federal maternity leave in the USA. Country of freedom for the rich and social shit hole for the rest.
alkonaut 5y ago
Where?

People like that work the same hours in the EU.

by bserge 5y ago

People like that work the same hours in the EU.

Working 7 days a week all the time is not legal in the EU, see [0]. Also, many EU countries have even stricter local regulations in that regard. https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/human-resources/working-hours-holiday-leave/working-hours/index_en.htm https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/human-resources/workin...

Tarucho 5y ago
But are the regulations enforced?
- mrunkel 5y ago
  Yes
- celticninja 5y ago
  Yes, although workarounds exist, but not in a way that would make this sort of employment possible.
- raffraffraff 5y ago
  I would say yes and no. If you (the employee) are heavily invested in the success of the company because you have a lot of stock options, or its success would look great on your work history, or you lied about having certain skills and now you have to work double to get the job done while learning, then you might decide to put in crazy hours. But that is a don't ask / don't tell situation. If there is any record that management knew you were working 7 days straight, then they would be in the soup. But ultimately this gives the power to the employee. At a previous company where I was that overworking employee, management tried to force a new oncall rota onto the whole team which clearly took the piss, I was able to pull on the ripcord and say "fuck, no". Unfortunately this put more pressure on the US team. And if management try to fire you in Europe they better have a better reason than "wouldn't work longer hours" or "knows their rights", so you're protected when you do raise the concern.
- Bayart 5y ago
  As an employer, you don't want to be on the bad side of labour court.

hosenten 5y ago

You have even mandatory holiday as intern. You have health care either through your family or through any normal job including flipping burgers. You have min 20 days holiday as burger flipper as well. It's a shame how unfair humans get treated in the USA or let's say disgusting. And no federal maternity leave in the USA. Country of freedom for the rich and social shit hole for the rest.

alkonaut 5y ago

Where?