"Ian G" correctly recognizes that OTR doesn't provide mathematical reliability, but rather just prevents mathematical confirmation. The issue here (seems to be

"Ian G" correctly recognizes that OTR doesn't provide mathematical reliability, but rather just prevents mathematical confirmation. The issue here (seems to be) that he incorrectly thinks that it is said to do anything else. "Ian Goldberg" (an apparent different person) points this out well here: http://lists.randombit.net/pipermail/cryptography/2011-July/001158.html http://lists.randombit.net/pipermail/cryptography/2011-July/... There is also some mumbo jumbo about what math should or should not attempt to do. If I'm reading this correctly, it seems like Ian G is also opposed to any system that could do what he thinks OTR allegedly does. Seems like just another opinion to me, not really worthy of much analysis.