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Wanting bad things to happen to people is almost never a good thing. Also, as one of those aforementioned people, I'm not taking any vaccine because I am at th

Wanting bad things to happen to people is almost never a good thing. Also, as one of those aforementioned people, I'm not taking any vaccine because I am at the age to have children, and I don't trust the vaccine to not screw that up.

ciwolsey 5y ago
Don't blame hypothetical children.
- redis_mlc 5y ago
  Again, HN acting puerile. Having children is one of the most important considerations in life for many people. The primary motivation for marriage is to have children, which is why evolutionary biology tells men to date younger. Also, from a societal standpoint, reproduction is the most important thing, as seen in fertility crises in Japan, China, and both Western and Eastern Europe. In my case, since my other siblings couldn't have children for various reasons, I stepped up on behalf of my entire family and had one. I have to bear the considerable cost and responsibility, but it made sense from a long-term family standpoint.
- ghoward 5y ago
  I'm not blaming them. It's an important consideration for me to have children. Also, I'm going to wait until at least the FDA puts the vaccines through the ringer and approves them for general use.
redis_mlc 5y ago
That's a very good point. If having kids is a really big deal to you, maybe even freeze your sperm now. A female friend of mine who only had vaccine dose 1 of 2 is just recovering from moderately severe delta corona, and I hope she'll still be able to have kids some day. (IVF is not practical in her situation, so freezing eggs was never an option.)
morsch 5y ago
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8190708/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8190708/ https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2781360 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2781360
- ghoward 5y ago
  https://gavinhoward.com/2019/12/replication-and-retraction-crises-in-science/ https://gavinhoward.com/2019/12/replication-and-retraction-c...

ciwolsey 5y ago

Don't blame hypothetical children.

redis_mlc 5y ago
Again, HN acting puerile. Having children is one of the most important considerations in life for many people. The primary motivation for marriage is to have children, which is why evolutionary biology tells men to date younger. Also, from a societal standpoint, reproduction is the most important thing, as seen in fertility crises in Japan, China, and both Western and Eastern Europe. In my case, since my other siblings couldn't have children for various reasons, I stepped up on behalf of my entire family and had one. I have to bear the considerable cost and responsibility, but it made sense from a long-term family standpoint.
ghoward 5y ago
I'm not blaming them. It's an important consideration for me to have children. Also, I'm going to wait until at least the FDA puts the vaccines through the ringer and approves them for general use.

redis_mlc 5y ago

That's a very good point. If having kids is a really big deal to you, maybe even freeze your sperm now. A female friend of mine who only had vaccine dose 1 of 2 is just recovering from moderately severe delta corona, and I hope she'll still be able to have kids some day. (IVF is not practical in her situation, so freezing eggs was never an option.)

morsch 5y ago

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8190708/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8190708/ https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2781360 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2781360

ghoward 5y ago
https://gavinhoward.com/2019/12/replication-and-retraction-crises-in-science/ https://gavinhoward.com/2019/12/replication-and-retraction-c...